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Thanks Tom, for your lucid words. To understand the whole issue about
"BrOffice gate" need much more than the arrogance of some leaders.

Regards,

Luiz Oliveira

2011/6/14 Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>

Hi :)
There is a lot of extreme emotion about this area.  BrOffice seems to have
been
excellent for many years, gained a good reputation, good people and did
great
work.  Inevitably any large community will have misunderstandings and
different
people heading in different directions but all believing they are doing the
best
for the whole community.


Sometimes people are too enthusiastic and haven't noticed what already
exists or
how their ideas might already be being implemented.  I think it's best to
guide
people into what is already going on so that they can channel their
enthusiasm
in a positive direction.  The post that sparked this controversy was
clearly not
written in the person native language so the misunderstanding should be
easier
to clarify on Brazilian lists.


Most of the good stuff about BrOffice seems to have merged into the wider
community here at TDF in the LibreOffice community.  It has enriched the
wider
community considerably.  Most of the good people are here now, and the
structures, websites, the passion and so on.  It does still retain a unique
identity even if the name has changed.  It's influencing the wider
community too
now :)
Regards from
Tom :)





________________________________
From: "luizheli@gmail.com" <luizheli@gmail.com>
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 15 June, 2011 0:53:11
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Magazine LibreOffice
International.

I'll try to explain. Once again we are faced with an issue which is not
applicable to the TDF and marketing list. This a internal question.
Although
I do not believe that TDF is so alienated.

Did not take the death of BrOffice.org. That still leaves the death of the
BrOffice magazine and any semblance of this ill-fated brand. I did not
believe it would come back, but came back! I end my participation here this
theme because I believe the list does not deserve this kind of discussion.

"Brazil, show your face .."

Rgds,

Luiz Oliveira

2011/6/14 Italo Vignoli <italo.vignoli@gmail.com>

On 6/14/11 11:31 PM, luizheli@gmail.com wrote:

 Something tells me there are more unspoken intentions behind this naive
message.


I simply consider a global magazine a difficult project, but I cannot see
any unspoken intentions behind it.

In my opinion, a free software project should have a generally positive
attitude vs new proposals.

Maybe, you should clarify which are your unspoken intentions, as your
message is clearly hiding something.

Best regards.

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