Re: [steering-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-website] Website status

Hi David, *,

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 12:35 AM, David Nelson <commerce@traduction.biz> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 05:38, Bernhard Dippold
> <bernhard@familie-dippold.at> wrote:
> [...]
> IMHO, I would scrap the current theme and make a new one. I've never
> done a SilverStripe theme before, but once you've hacked themes for a
> couple of CMS's, you can hack them for another.

You don't hack a theme for silverstripe, you create a css for nicely
created HTML :-))

The cms specific parts should be reduced to a minimum, as I think the
html it creates is semantic enough, and not layout-dependent :-)

> I bet it would only
> take me a few days. If one of you SilverSite CSS/theming gurus helped
> out, I bet we could do it even quicker...

Well, I wouldn't tackle this.
Feedback from the marketing/design/branding front is rather sparse, as
very few people have time these days, so I fear that it ends up like
"Nice, you got a theme, but unfortunately it doesn't match our vision
for future branding" or similar....

I personally don't like the libreofficeaustralia theme as it is now.
Header much too high, language selection doesn't work (something
opens, but that something is covered almost entirely by grey
background, no selection possioble, etc.
Visit it with german locale and you're locked out basically, as it
then also doesn't even offer navigation, etc. So from first looks:
Nah, needs work.

> Florian, Christian, if you gave me access to SSH/FTP into
> http://pumbaa.ooodev.org:7780/ then I could set a new theme up there

No need to have access, the theme is in git:
https://github.com/tdf/cms-themes you can download a zip or tar.gz
there using the download button and you can create an export of the
site using
http://pumbaa.ooodev.org:7780/StaticExporter/export?baseurl=relative
This will get you a html.tar.gz  - copy the cms-themes folder of the
git download into the html folder as html/themes

Then hack around. Don't bother about the silvertsripe templates, just
add the html you wish there would be, I can then adapt the templates.
The templates are included in the cms-themes as well, so feel free to
have a look, it needs some refactoring anyway, (move common parts to
includes, do less duplication), but they are pretty straightforward in
either case.
http://doc.silverstripe.org/templates

> What do you think, guys?

See above. A redesign will very likely have to wait until people are
able to provide input. The discussion on how the navigation should
look for example didn't receive much feedback yet, so whatever you
would do, it would be on a very fragile basis.

> a) We'd get a lot more flexibility with the content.
> b) If ever there is a changeover to a Drupal site, there will be no
> visual break... the roll-over could be almost invisible.

This is a non-argument. Drupal can adapt to whatever we create on
silverstripe, etc.

> > PPPS: The graphic on the main page links to http:///download/ (not a
> > relative link...)
>
> I know. I had to hack the HTML/CSS to make the shuffler look OK.

Huh? What does the link have to do with it? You already fixed the
images, the link is completely independent of the
images/photo-shuffler. But I'll fix it nevertheless...

ciao
Christian

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