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Le mercredi 10 avril 2013 à 11:11 +0100, Ian Lynch a écrit :
On 10 April 2013 09:07, Charles-H. Schulz
<charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
        Thanks Ian. At the risk of repeating myself this is a taks
        based mailing list for marketing and not a venue for
        advertisement. 
        
        
I'd have considered getting the brand out on certificates across eg
Kenya to be a directly relevant marketing task.

No. It's about certification provided by your company. It is your
business.  It's not LibreOffice marketing. 

 Seems other community members, Evans, Tom and  Cor agree with that. 

Smart move: play one against the other. But they did not agree with what
you implied. They merely responded. 

I'm only responding to their posts with relevant and objective
information, I didn't initiate the thread. But as I said I haven't
time for petty squabbling so I have removed LO logo and references
from our site, you can check at https://theingots.org/community/home.
If you come across any you don't like anywhere I'm happy to remove
them. We have nothing to gain from publicising LO and if anything it
costs us in time and effort so it is far more sensible for me to put
time effort and resources into FOSS communities where I don't get
aggravation. 


Your decision. It obviously did not cost you that much. 

        Let's close that thread now.
        
        
As far as I am concerned I only responded relevantly and in context
with information people might find useful. If this message closes the
thread its fine by me.

Thank you,

Charles.

        Thanks,
        
        Charles.
        
        
        
        
        Ian Lynch <ianrlynch@gmail.com> a écrit :
                On 9 April 2013 20:29, Cor Nouws <oolst@nouenoff.nl> wrote:
                
                
                        Ian Lynch wrote (09-04-13 12:44)
                        
                        A point to note is we don't do courses. We
                        quality assure the outcomes of
                                courses.
                        
                        
                        Is the way you assure the quality of the
                        outcomes something that we can
                        learn from?
                
                
                Possibly - it's agreed with the UK national regulators
                through the
                Regulatory Conditions. They are at
                http://www.theingots.org/community/OfqualA
                
                Its a bit like an ISO 9000 system for Awarding
                Organisations. In essence we
                deal with centres - Schools, Colleges and Adult
                Education orgs. We train
                their staff as assessors and they sign professional
                agreements on the web
                site to uphold professional standards. We sample their
                work and in some
                cases use short on-line tests to verify standards. The
                methods depend on
                the risk presented by the qualification in terms of
                the level and its
                purpose. You can down load the handbook we use for
                schools at
                https://theingots.org/community/handbook2 Click here
                in the first
                paragraph. There is a model test in the book and some
                explanation of the
                assessment methods.
                
                This means we do not have a lot of content to change
                and we leave
                                the teaching to the institutions
                                professional preferences.
                        
                        
                        The only things to up date are the Logo link
                        on the home page of the web
                                site
                        
                        
                        Apart from what the board may decide, at least
                        the use of the logo without
                        TDF line is needed and is something you can do
                        without delay.
                        
                        
                        
                        and *if* it conforms with the TDF logo usage
                        policy to put the logo on
                                any certificates issued to say this
                                certificate was issued in the
                                context of LO.
                        
                        
                        If any use of the LibreOffice logo is allowed,
                        then it should be in a way
                        that it makes clear that LibreOffice is
                        supported, and not that there is an
                        endorsement from TDF.
                
                
                That really depends on a subjective judgement. Is
                putting a logo on a
                certificate claimin g endorsement or is it simply
                saying this certificate
                was achieved using that product? I can see it could be
                interpreted either
                way so before I did it I'd want specific authorisation
                to do it. That would
                apply to any software not just LO. I would not want to
                start awarding
                certificates and then find there was a problem some
                time later. It's easy
                to remove a logo from the web site, it is not so easy
                to revoke
                certificates. In fact we would also incur problems
                with Ofqual so that
                would be far too big a risk to the business overall to
                chance it.
                
                PS we have a partner in the Netherlands called
                Pro-work. We work with them
                on EU projects.
                
                Cheers,
                
                        --
                        - Cor
                        - http://nl.libreoffice.org
                        - www.librelex.org
        
        



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