Re: [tdf-discuss] Please embed dictionaries in Danish lang-pack and install

Andras Timar wrote:
> 2010/10/17 Andrea Pescetti:
> > Being the maintainer of the Italian dictionary package, I'm sad to see
> > LibreOffice trashing my work (and doing the same with other
> > community-contributed dictionary packages, like Danish as seen in this
> > thread) without explanation.
>
> The word "trashing" is maybe a bit strong in my opinion.

Yes, it has to be taken in the scope I was referring to (i.e., for
language packs for Linux-based systems), not in general.

> I think general Linux builds should include the dictionaries

I agree, of course. But this is not happening at the moment, is it? And
if it isn't, how can we propose to change it?

> and distro specific builds should exclude them and should
> ship current system wide dictionary packages at the same time.

Well, here indeed the problem should be discussed. I comment on a
previous message of yours:

> Using system wide dictionaries makes sense in case of
> spellcheckers, a lot of programs use them.

If if we had only spellcheckers, I could agree on this.

> However, I'm not sure if hyphenation patterns are used by anything
> other than LibO (Scribus maybe?).

They are in practically all cases converted from LaTeX, but I don't know
if there is other software using the hyphenation patterns in the
OpenOffice.org/LibreOffice format.

> I also don't know if thesaurus can be used by other software
> than LibO.

Me neither, but here the tools used are OOo-specific (resp.,
LibreOffice-specific!) so I doubt there are other use cases.

> It should be discussed, because not all Linux distributions
> package all dictionaries for all languages, or the packages may be
> outdated.

And this is a good point. Moreover, I will add that:
1) N-L Projects usually supply a full package (spellchecker+hyphenation
+thesaurus) and I wouldn't feel confident in shipping it partially.
2) Components cannot be assumed to be independent: there is interaction
between the spellchecker and thesaurus (if you right-click a plural
word, the singular form is extracted using the spellchecker and the
synonyms are found for the singular form).
3) Unfortunately it seems that integration can go even deeper, like
http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=3592

Based on this, I would recommend to stay on the safe side and include
the full package in all versions, unless one can prove that removing the
spellchecker and using the system one (or using none) will not affect
operations.

Regards,
  Andrea Pescetti.


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