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I forgot to ask, the keyboard sequence sent can turn java support on or 
off, what would be a sequence to use to find out which jre is in use and 
find out if it has accessibility enabled?  I have java support turned on 
now, since enable accessibility didn't complain about java support being 
turned off when I tried to turn assistive technology support on.

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Jude DaShiell wrote:

Hi, unfortunately this didn't work.  A jre is defective message comes up 
and the terminal rings a kind of error bell.

I haven't done source code diving and don't know what was used to write 
libreoffice.  But if I were to use source code diving, I'd locate the 
code that gets activated we're trying to make work and check it for a 
logic bomb which in all cases makes this jre is defective message come 
up.  I'd find no conditional branches there and that would tell me that 
some programmer had deliberately disabled accessibility until that logic 
bomb gets cleared out of libreoffice.  I think this entire situation is 
at 6's and 7's until those with knowledge of the source code can 
investigate it properly.  If I found conditions like jre must be a 
certain number or list of versions, then I bet the most current versions 
of java are not on that list and we have an error since libreoffice 
doesn't let the user know what versions of jre are acceptable for 
installation when these jre error messages come up.  Either way, it will 
need investigation of the source code by those that already know their 
way around it.

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, V Stuart Foote wrote:

Jude,

alt-t
alt-o
j

then tab

then space

then enter

Unfortunately NVDA does not read out the selection as marked or unmarked--so
you may have to cycle through the t - o - j  - tab - space - enter sequence 
again.  I know it is hard,  but you should only have to do this once. And
you should not need to, but if you can get some sighted user assistance with
these steps  it might be less frustrating.

With Java enabled, then try to enable the Accessibility Tools.  You should
get past the Java error with JAB  you have been having.

Finaly check if NVDA will read sentences from a Writer document with the
arrow keys or alternatively moving the mouse pointer.  If  so you should be
set.

Stuart

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