Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?

Hi :)
If you can use MS Office to do some final proof-reading then you are unlikely to have any problems. 
 

We have been assuming that is not possible and that would make the final outcome uncertain.  Being 
able to quickly scroll through before sending it out into the world kinda eliminates that 
uncertainty.  

If you can keep all your 'originals' in Odt format and then at the end convert to Doc format then 
you should find that there are no surprises.  


Virgil seems to be talking about a very specific set of styles or method of using styles.  He is 
talking about  changing styles (such as changing the font of "text body") on different pages within 
the same document.  If you need to do that it might be worth creating duplicates of the styles and 
then modifying the duplicates?  I'm not sure how to deal with that but Virgil has probably found a 
work-around if needed.  


I would keep copies of photos/images/art/logos near the original Odts just in case you do run into 
problems.  LO does have an extremely rare intermittent bug that is difficult to pin down but seems 
to be getting rarer and rarer as code clean-up goes on.  You know that you can rename files from 
.Odt or .DocX to .Zip and then double-click to see the Xml coding inside along with folders for 
various things such as images.  Sometimes it can be a neat way to fix problems but it's a bit 
risky.  The Xml tags and such are very different in the 2 formats so just renaming .Odt to .DocX 
might create fairly serious problems.  Stick with the "Save As ...".  the Doc format doesn't open 
in that way and doesn't hold images in an image format which is another reason i suggest keeping a 
copy of images nearby.  

Also i have sometimes found that mysterious things happen during the course of a Word document.  So 
to save myself a lot of time i tend to start with a fresh new Odt and then use 
Ctrl Shift v
to paste in "unformatted text" and then apply styles (and maybe modfied the styles after to watch 
the mod ripple through the document).  Occasionally i have wanted to "just do something quickly" 
and then been frustrated by some weird bit of insane MS formatting that just keeps throwing up 
problems until i relent and do the "start again from scratch" approach which has then typically 
taken just a few minutes even if the problem seemed intractable.  

Regards from 
Tom :)  





________________________________
 From: Info/UX <infoux@gmx.com>
To: Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls@hotmail.com> 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Monday, 26 August 2013, 19:23
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?
 

Thanks, Virgil.

I can probably alter any lists when I work in an MS environment at the 
final stage of formatting.

Regarding page formatting — I'm wondering if I use slightly more 
advanced features of LibreOffice to get my results whether it would 
cause more problems when working in Word. I am trying to keep the 
process relatively simple. The articles only need to have consistent 
fonts and spacing and perhaps one page break for the bibliographies. I 
have starting created a LibreOffice template with customised paragraph 
styles and some changes to the page style. I was planning to apply this 
to the .docs. As long as 90% or so of my formatting would transfer to 
Word, I don't mind making some manual adjustments at that stage.

Thanks,
Ryan

On 26/08/13 13:00, Virgil Arrington wrote:
> In my experience, most paragraph styles tend to translate well to 
> MS-Word formats. However, I've had problems with the alignment of 
> automatic numbering and/or bullets. LO and MSW seem to align them 
> differently.
>
> One bigger difference, however, is the way the two formats handle page 
> formatting. LO uses page styles to change formatting from one page to 
> another, whereas Word does not. It uses section breaks to make such 
> page formatting changes, and I've found discrepancies in translating 
> page formatting between the two.
>
> Virgil
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Info/UX
> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 1:38 PM
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to 
> other software/formats?
>
> Hello,
>
> Apologies if this is a basic question. I've been given some documents to
> format according to certain style guidelines. The files are mostly .docx
> and .doc and must be sent off in this format. I work only with
> LibreOffice. My questions is, if I format the articles using paragraph
> and page styles rather than just directly changing the format in the
> body of the document, will the formatting be maintained when the
> documents are opened in MS Office? I am not concerned with small
> discrepancies that can be tweaked later on, rather whether this method
> of formatting generally transfers well. Again, sorry if it's a silly
> question.
>
> Many thanks.
> Ryan


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