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On 03/16/2012 09:29 AM, Nino Novak wrote:

On Friday 16 March 2012, 12:57:24 Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 16.03.2012 11:09, Nino Novak wrote:

On Thursday 15 March 2012, 21:49:10 Andreas Säger wrote:

First you need some database up and running. The creation of a
database
requires expert skills and appropriate software tools for the database
type in question.

IMHO, we should offer a really *short* tutorial on how to create a
simple
address book with LibreOffice.

It could be used as reference on how to use Base.

Don't you think, that this would help much more than saying, that it
requires expert skills?

Nino

Again, this is *impossible*.

Would you mind - sorry for the "assault" - would   you mind to *show* me that
that's impossible instead of telling me?

(Note: I'm not talking about a tutorial of "how to become a database expert",
but only of "how to create a simple address book")


You can not describe how to do that by
means  of features. You have to describe the process by means of data.

I don't understand what you want to say here.

As for the tutorial, I meant: implementing one possible concretion of an
address book. Step by step. No further knowledge needed (though of course,
helpful if available).



There are plenty of references on how to use Base.

Unfortunately most of them start with theory. Though, there is one tutorial-
like Howto which I really appreciate. But it's about a calendar/scheduler, so
not applicable here.



There are thousands
of resources on relational database design in general.

As said before: I did not mean to learn how to become a database specialist.
The tutorial should be aimed at simple (or say, a little bit advanced) users,
who just want to build a simple database.



This is not a
problem. The problem is that too many people try to learn this by doing.

I always encounter too many people trying to understand theory and
capitulating because of the too high level of abstraction needed to understand
theory.


But this is something where you need to know some basics before you can
do anything.

What if we "just try it"?

Nino
My database experience started with a DOS database. Then I moved from that to Access to Paradox to Base. I'm very far from a database expert. In base I have one with about 2600 records at work to keep address, phone numbers, basic information in about the inquiry, and notes of things that transpired. I have a second one to print Christmas card mailing labels. I learned how to do this by reading, and trial and error through the various programs/applications. I would be lost without my databases. I think a tutorial would be an excellent thing. When I moved to Base, about 8 years ago, I printed out the Base tutorial and just followed it. 

Don


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