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Re: [libreoffice-users] Share-point?

IBBoard <ibboard -AT- gmail.com>
Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:56:50 +0000

Yes, you can encrypt it first, but a) that is an extra step and b) it only
gives you a semi-useful backup, not a fully versioned document store.

If you want encrypted backups then I'd suggest SpiderOak instead - they
encrypt it with a key they don't know, so they *can't* read it. Still, for
Corporate environments, that isn't as useful as a central managed store
that they can just backup once.
On Feb 14, 2013 6:48 PM, "Felmon Davis" <davisf@union.edu> wrote:

On Thu, 14 Feb 2013, IBBoard wrote:

 Sharepoint is a self-hosted solution. You are relying on a Microsoft

product, but the documents are never handed over to Microsoft and none of
the files never leave your network. It isn't perfect, but is generally
fairly secure (as secure as your networks, anyway) and companies can use
it.

Dropbox is an unencrypted cloud solution. Once it is on the Dropbox severs
then any of the Dropbox staff /could/ read it. Or it could be copied or
otherwise lost by people who aren't your employees. Or it could be leaked
as party of a wider Dropbox hack/leak. Or it could be retrieved by a
foreign government (USA, I think) without your knowledge. Generally, it is
out of your corporate network perimeter and hence out of your control. In
general, that is *not* a good thing.

That's not to say people can't use Dropbox. If you don't value your files
(or have some reason to trust that nothing will happen to your unencrypted
files in an unknown data centre or data centres) then that might be fine,
but for a company that has to protect its ideas and business secrets then
an internally hosted solution is the only sensible option, even if it is
from Microsoft.


I wholly concur that it is generally better to keep stuff 'home' to the
extent possible. (just lost a local struggle here about this issue but
regarding using google apps.)

you could put _encrypted_ files on Busybox thus obviating that security
leak, and you could maintain backups thus ensuring you don't lose the
files. but better keep things at home.

F.


 On Feb 14, 2013 6:21 PM, "Felmon Davis" <davisf@union.edu> wrote:


 On Thu, 14 Feb 2013, IBBoard wrote:


 Microsoft might not have control over it, but Dropbox will. For a

business,
that is unacceptable - and rightly so, since it means important
documents
go outside your perimeter. Instead they use a document management system
(like Sharepoint or Alfresco) that they install and manage centrally.

Unlike a wiki, a document management system gives full, normal document
management. Unlike a CMS it is all about documents, and unlike a LAN
share
it does versioning and workflow.

Basically, Sharepoint is something for businesses. A normal user will
never
need it.

I don't understand the relation between these propositions:

a) "Microsoft might not have control over it, but Dropbox will. For a
business, that is unacceptable..."

b) "Basically, Sharepoint is something for businesses."

is the point that it is better for a business that Microsoft hold their
documents than that Busybox does?

just seeking clarification.

(I have Busybox but don't use it for a number of reasons; I am not
acquainted enough with Sharepoint.)

F.

 On Feb 14, 2013 5:28 PM, "anne-ology" <laginnis@gmail.com> wrote:


        Content Management System  ;-) ... LAN  ;-) ... a wiki ;-)  ???


          as to these - I haven't a clue; I'll continue to stick with
the
KISs method  ;-)

       But if we each sign up to use DropBox, we can each end up with
6Gb
of free space to use as we wish in sharing documents -
           and MsFt does not have any control over this  :-)



On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk

wrote:


Hi :)

Ahh, so is it a sort of Content Management System that can be used to

hold

documents centrally, like putting them on a shared folder on a Lan so

that

everyone can work on the same file instead of each generating
different
copies and then trying to compare all the different ones to
incorporate

all

the different changes?  Sort of like a wiki?
Regards from
Tom :)


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*From:* anne-ology <laginnis@gmail.com>
*To:* Tom <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>
*Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org
*Sent:* Thursday, 14 February 2013, 16:53
*Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Share-point?

      Just 'searched' and found this -
          
http://www.youtube.com/watch?****v=s12Jb5Z2xaE<http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=s12Jb5Z2xaE>
<http://www.**youtube.com/watch?v=**s12Jb5Z2xaE<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s12Jb5Z2xaE>


      Seems somewhat silly since we could all benefit if we were to
use
DropBox -
          http://db.tt/v1nUSr8M



On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

Hi :)

Has anyone managed to get MS Sharepoint working with 4.0.0?

 Apparently

it's one of the features that are supposed to be in the 4.0.0

although

have no idea what SharePoint is nor why anyone would use it.



According to the comments under this article

 
http://www.webupd8.org/2013/****02/libreoffice-40-available-**<http://www.webupd8.org/2013/**02/libreoffice-40-available-**>

for-download.html<http://www.**webupd8.org/2013/02/**
libreoffice-40-available-for-**download.html<http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/libreoffice-40-available-for-download.html>

Somewhere about 1/4 up from the bottom

"Алексей Бродкин • 6 days ago
It seems like some of highlighted options are missing from this

release.

1. Unity/Global menu integration - at least I cannot see it in action

or

any toggle in setting

2. SharePoint integration. From here http://tekonorma.fr/WPblogTN/**
** <http://tekonorma.fr/WPblogTN/**>

2. <http://tekonorma.fr/WPblogTN/**2 <http://tekonorma.fr/WPblogTN/2>

.>..
I

learnt that to have this option one needs to instal a corresponding

plug-in

from here http://extensions.libreoffice.****... and you may see this

link

leads to "This page does not seem to exist..." - seems like due to

legal

issue plugin was removed."


Sure enough the link didn't work so i got to the Extensions site

another

way but a quick search to find "sharepoint" or "share point" didn't

reveal

any relevant Extensions.

Regards from
Tom :)

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