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Hi :)
Errr, me too now that i think about it but since a colleague pointed it out i now only do it if 
there  is a decent calculator easily to hand and that can get the answers right (or at least close 
enough).  Maybe i should leave a short-cut on his desktop.  

Regards from 
Tom :)  





________________________________
From: Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls@hotmail.com>
To: Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>; LibreOffice List <users@global.libreoffice.org> 
Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2013, 23:39
Subject: Re: off-list Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin


Been there...unfortunately as the one looking for a calculator, he said with 
a blush.

Virgil

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tom Davies
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:52 PM
To: Virgil Arrington ; LibreOffice List
Subject: off-list Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin

Hi :)
+1
My boss asked me if there was a calculator and i was really tempted to say
"Start" button - Accessories - Calculator
but instead just dusted off the old hand-held dedicated calculated that gets 
it wrong when i try 10/3 and then *3.  Then found he already had Excel open 
anyway.

Regards from
Tom :)






________________________________
From: Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls@hotmail.com>
To: William Drago <wdrago@suffolk.lib.ny.us>; LibreOffice List 
<users@global.libreoffice.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 26 June 2013, 12:55
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin


William,

Your document would use page styles. The page style for the first page 
would
not have any headers. Then the page style for the subsequent pages would
have a header. You can then format the lines (paragraphs) within the header
to any left and right margin you would like. (To have margins extend beyond
the normal page margin, use negative numbers in your paragraph indent
settings.)

To get to the page styles, make sure you're styles list is showing (press
F11 if it isn't). Then, at the top of the list are icons for (from left to
right) paragraph styles, character styles, frame styles, and then page
styles (it looks like a sheet of paper). Click on that icon to see a list 
of
the page styles available for your document. You can then right click on 
any
one of them to modify them or create new ones. At this point, it would be
best for you to experiment with the page styles yourself, creating new ones
or modifying existing ones to get the result that you want. Take careful
note of the option on the "organizer" tab for "next style" as it will show
what page style will be used for the following page. Sometimes this can
cause some frustration. Also, there is an option in the header tab to set
left and right margins. It may not allow negative margin settings here (I
just tried it and it ignored me), so you may need to set negative margins 
at
the paragraph indent level rather than the header margin level.

It's all about learning to use styles, paragraph styles for paragraph level
formatting and page styles for page level formatting. It's a pain to learn,
and while you're learning you want to cuss out the LO developers, but once
you learn it, you'll bless them as you'll be able to make your documents
sing. The only way I know to learn is to experiment and play with them,
creating your own styles along the way. I know its frustrating when all you
want to do is finish the current project, but the more you learn now, the
more you'll be able to apply to future projects to make your work so much
quicker, automated, and consistent. It really is worth the effort.

What I find most interesting is the dark ages style of formatting papers
that you've been handed, with paragraph indents measured in "spaces" and
lines in terms of "single" "double" and "triple" spacing. Is this an
Underwood we're using or a computer?

As long as we remain entrenched in a typewriter mentality (even though many
of us have never typed a single letter on a typewriter), we will never 
learn
the advanced capabilities of our computers, which act more like printing
presses than typewriters.

Virgil


-----Original Message----- 
From: William Drago
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 6:01 AM
To: LibreOffice List
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin

All,

I am working on a research paper. The required page layout
puts last name, working title, and page number in the upper
right hand corner of each page, outside the right hand margin.

It is similar to what is shown here, but has to appear on
every page, not just the first page, and has to be outside
the right margin and closer to the top of the page.

http://www15.uta.fi/FAST/PK6/CITEX/TRADMOD/trad-mla.html

How can this be done in LO Writer?

Thanks,
-Bill


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