[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu --- why version 12.04 LTS?

On 10/09/2015 01:33 AM, Евгений wrote:
> I think fresh PPA is - https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
>
> There are instaructions on how to add ppa in your distro (see "Read about installing").
> After that you can use any way to install libreoffice.
> I am using fresh ppa on 12.04 and have no problems with dependencies.
>
> If you can not do something - post what you do and what happens or what errors you get.

I tend not to use PPA for LibreOffice.  I want more control over what 
version of LibreOffice I have installed on all my systems and when they 
get upgraded to a newer version.  I have some systems [Windows 10 and 
Ubuntu 14.04 or 15.04] running 5.0.x, while others run 4.4.x.  I 
sometimes remove and install different versions of LibreOffice for 
testing and evaluation for my needs and others I have dealt with so I 
can recommend the "proper" version of the software and/or let them know 
when it is time to upgrade to a new version.

Of course, in later posts there is a lot of talk about command line 
installs and noob.  "Linux is not for noobs" was one statement, but how 
does noobs not stay noobs without working with the OS?  I have been 
working with Linux since the 2004 or so.  I have has a Linux desktop as 
my default system since later 2009 or early 2010.  I still do not know 
even a third of what I would like to know or what people tell me I need 
to know.  So to some, I am still a noob. Since I have been working with 
computers since the smallest ones were the size of refrigerators and 
punch cards were the normal program storage method,  I have worked with 
these things for a long time, on-and-off.  SO, I have seen a lot of 
noobs learn what they need to no longer be considered a noob.  They did 
so by working with the package or OS and not avoiding it since they are  
noobs.  If a person think you should avoid things you are a noob for 
then that same person could also say you should avoid switching from MS 
Office to LibreOffice since you would be new to the package and should 
avoid using it.  I have been using LibreOffice since almost "day one" 
and I know very little about the things LibreOffice can do for which I 
have no use for.  So I must be a noob after these 4 or 5 years, or at 
least to some people on this list.

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off topic, but part of the post


Why are you still using Ubuntu 12.04?  Since 14.04 LTS has been out for 
a year+ and 15.04 is out with 15.10 coming out soon, why have you not 
used the upgrade manager and installed the newer version[s] of Ubuntu?  
If there is a good reason why 14.04 or newer does not work for you, it 
would be nice to know.

I started to have dependency issues with it last year when installing 
some new software.  Of course, 14.04 caused some dependency issues when 
it dropped support for some dependencies needed for my Canon printer.

The big reason, for me to go beyond 12.04 was the fact that a lot of my 
favorite software had updates/upgrades that would not work on 12.04.

To get around the 14.04 dependency issues, I upgraded from 12.04 and DID 
NOT allow the outdated packages to be removed in the upgrade process.  
That kept the driver dependent packages from being removed.  To be 
honest, this desktop I am typing from was wiped clean since I went from 
Linux Mint to Ubuntu with MATE d.e..  I installed 12.04 and then 
installed all my printers and other packages/drivers needed.  Then I 
upgraded to 14.04.  If I did not install the printers/drivers at this 
stage, then it caused some issues when installing them after the 14.04 
upgrade was finished.

The reason I question about still using 12.04 LTS is the fact that there 
are a lot of kernel and other internal updates/upgrades that might be 
important down the line.  The only issue I have seen was with an old 
package - Kompozer - that does not work with the new GUI interface, or 
something like that.  The upgraded drivers/packages that is the basis 
for having a graphical display will not work with Kompozer - my default 
WYSIWYG editor for web pages.  I have to find a replacement, since 
Kompozer is no longer an active project and will not be upgraded to work 
with the new graphical systems.



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