Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: increase testing to improve quality

On 29/02/2012, NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > There is a web page which describes manual testing:
> > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Manual_Tests. Clearly,
> > there are insufficient testers...
>
> Clearly:
> <quote>
> IMPORTANT: Obsoleted by Litmus
>
> Litmus is a useful tool for organizing manual tests. Please, help us to
> migrate all these test cases there and remove them from this wiki page.
> </quote>
>
> So why even point 'users' to that page?

The initial purpose is to promote the existence of QA testing, both in
terms of the history (the wiki) and the future (litmus).

> >
>
> Cool. Have you *actually* installed 3.5.1rc1 (as noted in the litmus test)?
> Description:  Test run for *3.5.1 RC* regression testing. Please use
> *3.5.1 RC* build to test the cases in this run.

No, there are no new features of personal interest.

> If you did (and you'd need to find it someplace other than:
> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ and (currently) only
> on http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/
> you'd find that the install (at least on a debian linux system) smokes
> your existing 3.5.0 install (remember 3.5.0 is the released version).

I don't fully understand, but perhaps this is a serious bug?

> So, while I (we?) appreciate your efforts to get users on this "user"
> list as pre-release testers, I'd be overly cautious about asking "users"
> on this list to perform litmus tests... At least not without explaining
> in *detail* what is required, and how to avoid existing LO standard
> installations being blown away by a pre-release version.

That is valid and is of such high importance to be published on the
'qa' web page!

> IMO it's probably better for 'users' on this list to wait to
> test/participate when http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
> actually shows a pre-release version. *And* testers understand the
> implications of testing. This will avoid the "LO blew up my thesis" and
> wiped out all of my exisiting templates/files/settings. (Note: I'm not
> making light of those that do report such, but instead trying to avoid
> such reports here in the first place as they are *serious* issues & can
> happen if you don't understand what you are doing when you "test".)

True, but surely users are sufficiently intelligent to understand not
to use alpha, beta, pre-release, release candidate, etc. on computers
containing important information such as a thesis???

Any competent tester should have a separate machine.

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