Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How get LibreO-Base working?

All of you.
Thanks very much for your kindness to bother answering - and for the 
very interesting discussions.

My conclusion is that LO-Base (and OO-Base ?) is not yet - and perhaps 
will not be as mentioned in the desciption at LO-Wikipedia: "A database 
management program 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_management_program>, similar to 
Microsoft Access ..  etc" <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Access>.
Its really pity because I think the usability of databases is 
underrated; quite ordinary people should have plenty of use of databases 
in their every day life if there only were free, easy installed, easy 
customized templates and some efforts on marketing. I just got a fancy 
idea that LO-/OO-Base could be that user-friendly solution.
Anyway, I still feel it worth trying to see if there should be a way to 
get my 32bit LO-Base working!

I agree. I am a 72 years "oldtimer" with a pure interest to keep up. 
When in office until about 10 years ago I worked quite a lot with 
MSAccess and VBA & macros and got somewhat familiar with SQL too. 
MSAccess alone was enough for quite complicated projects with 
informative forms/reports and analyses.
So now it is not the MySQL/SQLite, it is the PHP-language and getting 
the MySQL/PHP/Apache combination working that I feel uncomfortable - I 
also have tried WASP.
Again - thanks and all the best!
Pertti Rönnberg


On 1.2.2012 9:43, Alex Thurgood wrote:
> Le 31/01/2012 22:07, Andreas Säger a écrit :
>
> Hi Andreas,
>
> > Am 31.01.2012 20:16, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
> > > Yes, the dependency on Java JRE/JDK is a pain in the backside, but
> > > unfortunately unavoidable if you want to use Base, at least for the 
> > > time
> > > being.
> >
> > With no Java being installed, I can connect a Base document to any
> > non-Java database, write queries, draw input forms and use Calc as
> > reporting engine.
>
> And I would state that that is an "unusual" user setup. The user here 
> wants a relational database with subforms and reports and does not 
> want to use mysql, so where does that leave him her with regard to 
> Base - IMO, with HSQLDB, the stock db engine provided with LO. For 
> that, you need a JRE/JDK.
>
> And Calc for reports is OK, much as is Writer, but for anything a bit 
> more than a simple report, the user will have to deal with not only 
> the idiosyncrasies of the respective tool used for creating the 
> report, plus, in general, learn to use macros. The whole benefit of 
> having a specific reporting tool (the Java based ORB extension) is 
> that this is suppose to ease that pain.
>
> Personally, I'd love to be able to say, you get a great and easy to 
> use db reporting engine without Java in LO, but that is simply not the 
> case at the moment.
>
>
> Alex


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