Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] where's the accessibility?

Hi :)
I think that link didn't work.  Well, it didn't for me anyway.  It just gave me a search-engine 
list of articles about Java.  
Regards from
Tom :)  




----- Original Message -----
> From: anne-ology <laginnis@gmail.com>
> To: Tom <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>
> Cc: Stuart <VStuart.Foote@utsa.edu>; Users@global.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Sunday, 30 December 2012, 21:00
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] where's the accessibility?
>
>        Here's a listing of alternative java programs -
>
> http://www.techsupportalert.com/search/google/java?query=java&cx=partner-pub-4337260311855789%3A5365410881&cof=FORID%3A10&sitesearch=&safe=high
>
>           along with discussion from various users.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:24 AM, V Stuart Foote 
> <VStuart.Foote@utsa.edu>wrote:
>
> Tom,
> >  Probably, I'm pretty certain this issue has actually been with us since
> >  the Java JRE 1.6 -> JRE 1.7 crossover. It impacts usability with AT 
> because
> >  large segments of the GUI are no longer functional with screen and brail
> >  readers under JRE 1.7's Java Accessibility API even though the JAB is
> >  appears to be delivering identical roles and obejcts.
> >
> >  For now, rolling back to a JRE 1.6 and its more functional JAAPI may be
> >  the best suggestion for LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice users in need of
> >  AT.  The Java dependency may eventually be dropped, depending on where
> >  things go with BASE and HSQLDB and implementing a non-Java accessibility
> >  bridge based AT for Windows, i.e.an IAccessible2 implementation or
> >  possibly an AT-SPI2 port.
> >
> >  Question beside the workaround of using a JRE 1.6, is if there is much
> >  developer and TDF Board desire to repair AT and possibly BASE for use with
> >  JRE 1.7 and a more current HSQLDB build.
> >
> >  Stuart
> >
> >
> >  From: Tom Davies [tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk]
> >  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 10:45 AM
> >  To: Users@Global.LibreOffice.Org
> >  Cc: V Stuart Foote
> >  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] where's the accessibility?
> >
> >  Hi :)
> >  Should the devs be made aware of problems with the newer release of Java
> >  (again)?
> >
> >  Each new release of Java creates more problems and each is soon found to
> >  have more security issues so another new one needs to be released quickly.
> >   It's a 3rd party product that is difficult to track.
> >
> >  Regards from
> >  Tom :)
> >
> >
> >  From: V Stuart Foote <VStuart.Foote@utsa.edu>
> >  To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org
> >  Sent: Saturday, 29 December 2012, 16:13
> >  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] where's the accessibility?
> >
> >  Simon,
> >
> >  There appears to be a change in the JRE 1.7 and JAB 2.0.3 that is reducing
> >  the fidelity of the Java Accessibility API rendering of both LibreOffice
> >  and
> >  OpenOffice.  This is affecting both NVDA and Jaws screen readers.
> >
> >  I've been unable to find any Oracle documentation on API changes from 
> the
> >  2.02 to 2.03  JAB or JAAPI, but something is definitely changed.  Reviewing
> >  the JAB delivered document structure with JavaMonkey shows the 2.02
> >  rendering to be identical with the 2.0.3 rendering--but with JRE 1.7 its
> >  JAAPI appears to process the result differently and does not fully render
> >  the results in either screen reader.
> >
> >  Are you able to roll back to JRE 1.6 and a JAB 2.0.2 installation  and
> >  retest the issues you've had with LibreOffice 3.6.4? And otherwise 
> asses AT
> >  usability with the earlier Java runtimes?
> >
> >  Downloads needed to roll back are here:
> >
> >  JRE 1.6u38
> >  <
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6u38-downloads-1877409.html
> >  >
> >  JWin.exe installer for JAB 2.0.2 <
> >  http://empowermentzone.com/JWin_setup.exe>
> >
> >
> >  Stuart
>
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