minutes of ESC call ...

* Present:
  + Fridrich, Stephan, Andras, Joel, Caolan, Markus, Norbert,
    Bjoern, Thorsten, Ahmad, Astron, Michael M, Eike, Michael S,
    Petr, Cedric.

* Completed Action Items
  + need to rename the MIGRATED flag and unwind / test re-migration (Michael)
    + apparently no need to do this - the new directory name
      takes care of it.
  + FOSDEM: how to debug spreadsheet file-format issues (Markus)
  + FOSDEM: how to debug writer file-format issues (Miklos)
  + FOSDEM: add: language-tags how they clean up our l10n story (Eike)
  + FOSDEM: types.rdb removal / re-writing (Stephan)
  + FOSDEM: hacking on the new android / impress-remote (Thorsten)
  + FOSDEM: hacking on CMIS / the new template dialog (Cedric)
  + Testing Marathon: get update with stats for wordpress to Michael (Joel)
    + http://joelmadero.wordpress.com/2012/12/27/libreoffice-test-marathon-results/
  + disable gnome-vfs for now on linux builds for RC1 (Fridrich)
  + remove overly lame .gitignore entries (Norbert)
  + hide TCP/IP mode in android app itself: bluetooth only by default (Miklos)
  + update existing 'find-bar' close button / bug to an easy-hack 58526 (Michael)
    + obsolete - Joren on it.

* Last-time Action Items
  + Windows: .Net vs. our install still chasing (Tor / Fridrich)
  + FOSDEM: Easy QA introduction: bug triage etc. (Cor?)
  + FOSDEM: misc. new interop. feature and their development (Tibby)
  + on-line help for impress-remote would be useful, help appreciated (?)
  + full-word selection / editing ergonomics cf. UX-advise
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46517
    + pending input from Caolan / Cedric / Michael S
  + investigate re-using Win32 binary signing for Mac (Thorsten)

* Pending Action Items
  + [pending] add impress remote shots to features wiki page (Thorsten)
  + create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M)
  + minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
  + disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael)
  + tweak the configure defaults (Kendy)
    + no submodules by default, no gnome-vfs
  + mail details on signing etc. to Caolan (Fridrich)
    + needs a GPG public key from Caolan, punted to Jan.

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
  + 4.0 timeline:
    + on-schedule, RC1 builds are available, up-loading
    + All fixes now need 1x review - don't push your own work
    + RC2 January 25th - 2 weeks out
      + final RC3 - one week later
    + hard UI / string freeze
      + l10n approval required for string changes.
      + no string changes in final RC3
  + 3.6.5 rc1 - deadline is Monday
    + if critical regression wait until after 4.0rc3 for it
  + L10n status (Andras)
    + pootle upgrade 2x weeks ago and 4.0 brought lots of changes
    + lots of ongoing work, status looks good
  + completing generic / Linux builds -> RedHat (Caolan)
    + fdo#58165 - drop stdlibs foo

* UX input (Astron)
  + template manager / progress
    + progressing nicely - thanks to Cedric
  + Personas
    + discussion on ux-advise
    + thanks for feedback ! (Kendy)
  + Initial color picker design [done]
    + would appreciate hackers / hands [!]
    + great design at:
      https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Color_Picker
  + Splash screens
    + new whiteboard for 4.0 branding suggestions
      https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/4.0_Branding
    + so far may well stick with existing branding
  + T-shirts (Kendy)
    + whiteboard / feedback / CC the design list for FOSDEM
  + Save icon - are we going to switch back for 4.0 to the floppy ?
    + http://user-prompt.com/about-antiquated-metaphors-in-icons/
AI: + decision on whether to switch back tol old floppy save (Astron)
  + blog post pasting websites & loosing images ? (Bjoern)
AI: + agreement that default to not link should be fixed (Bjoern)

* Certification Committee update (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern)
  + nice write-up, great progress

* FOSDEM update (Markus)
  + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2013
  + preliminary timetable being tweaked
  + to be published later and Italo will enter to Penta
  + 20mins slots for 15min talks, and 40mins for 30min talks

* Features - please update:
  + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.0
  + other missing ?
    + templates management (Cedric)
    + add Personas (Kendy)
    + Mac / full-screen bits (Tor)

+ automated document load regession catching (Markus)
  + plan to add it to tinderbox, problems with some docs - 1 day to load
  + offered a tinderbox to Markus (Norbert)
  + file individual issues in batches - for three smallest documents (Caolan)

* gerrit / build-bot integration (Norbert)
  + starting to come on-line
  + now capable of building a patch with gerrit
  + eventually have an extra option - beyond verified
    + "sane - but needs a build before auto-merging"
    + so a developer reviews patch first

+ additional SDK examples (Stephan)
  + http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2013-January/043603.html
  + problems with adding to the sdk
    + grows the core repo
    + git greps / easy-hacks tweak the samples
    + sdk is not built & bit-rots
    + review cost - producing beautiful / best-practise
      code etc.
  + long ter need to make SD
  + Need a place for code snippets ?
    + or a forum ? (Norbert)
AI: + contrib/ repository (Norbert)

+ presenter-console patches to back-port to 4.0 ? (Ahmad)
  + working nicely in 4.0
  + 2-3 patches fixing text mirroring from master
AI: + look at this next week in person (Michael)

+ Widget layout localisation performance (DTardon)
  + fixed nicely, much faster, thanks David.
  + build-times with 110 langs back to 1 day - ie. normal

+ funding requests for the board:
  + 2x fast Mac build machines - tinderboxen - and ... dev machines
  + TDF should also own the hardware for releasing (Thorsten)
  + have Bytemark windows machine could use (Norbert)
    + machine able to build - signing certificate issues (Fridrich)
  + Funding request for new, fast Windows build machines (Norbert)
AI: + come up with / improve the existing concrete funding request
    for build hardware => board budget (Norbert/Thorsten/Fridrich)

* DudenCorrector bug fdo#59107 (Fridrich)
  + library deprecated since Feb 2011 - and announced
  + could we produce a compatibility package to drop the
    obsolete stlport into the system ?
  + not holding breath for progress before 4.0
  + a reasonable workaround is the best option
  + unanimous decision not to re-introduce obsolete
    VS run-time and stlport binaries.
AI: + at a minimum - release-note: dropping the DLL and the
    VS run-time on the system (Fridrich)

* 4.0 completed tasks:
  + MSI file re-name to be renamed for 4.0 LibreOffice (Petr)
    + pain / fixing for PHP / download scripts (Thorsten)
  + user migration path thought / testing (Michael)
  + .net framework, multiple installation bugs in Windows
    + a work-around: bump the required version of .Net ...
      + now we require .Net 4
      + if not there, the CLI not installed.
AI: + close https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58275 (Timar)

* 4.0 pending tasks
  + binfilter:
    + warn on legacy file-types with helpful dialog (needs owner)
  + drop Mozilla mess in the tree:
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56902
    + lots of cleanup in configure
  + Unix / LDAP addressbook support disappeared:
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57417
    + close that wontfix & release-note it ?
  + Mac build / signing (Thorsten/Norbert?)

* Proposed easy-hacks -> Easy Hacks (Joel)
  + developers need to decide what to do next
    + punting for a month ?
  + re-visit finding devs to build code-pointers for these:
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=147895&status_whiteboard_type=anywordssubstr&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=ProposedEasyHack&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&product=LibreOffice

* Hard Hacks:
  + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
  + mostly suspended until post 4.0 release.

* QA update (Joel)
  + all well
  + lots of QA Marathon joinees are continuing to help out
    + Joren doing awesome work
  + first meeting of new year tomorrow
  + still have around 64 4.0 bugs that need triage
  + aiming to get the un-triaged 4.0 bug count down to zero by next week
  + doing a lot of great bi-bisecting
  + handling of inappropriate behaviout on bz (Bjoern)
    + punted to next time

* Open 4.0 MAB / regressions
  + 14 (of 64) older 13/48 13/41 9/34 10/34 11/31 6/21 4/18 3/16 3/14 2/13
       22% 27% 32% 26% 29% 35% 29% 22%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
  + 36 (of 166) older 37/164 34/160 35/158 32/153 31/152 33/150 34/148 35/145
        22% 23% 21% 22% 21% 20% 22% 23% 24%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
  + 49 (of 266) older 50/266 54/268 62/277 64/279 65/279 65/278 69/278 69/279
        18% 19% 20% 22% 23% 23% 23% 25% 25%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
  + attempt at a new metric:
  + 43 (of 110)
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?f1=status_whiteboard&list_id=204265&o1=substring&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&v1=bibisected&product=LibreOffice
  + thanks to mst for closing several 'bibisected40' bugs & to QA for more bisection.

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
  + 245(+15) bugs open of 1109(+79) total

  * ~Component count net *
  + Writer - 95 (+8)
  + Crashes - 25 (+4)
  + Presentation - 24 (+0)
  + Spreadsheet - 22 (+1)
  + Database - 18 (+2)
  + LibreOffice - 17 (+0)
  + Drawing - 15 (+0)
  + Borders - 11 (+1)
  + Migration - 5 (+0)
  + Basic - 3 (-1)

  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
  + Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489
  + Writer / RTF section - retired: will now be counted as writer regressions
    + http://vmiklos.hu/blog/lo-zero-rtf-regressions.html