Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: A feature, or ...?

Hi :)
It's amazing that people have to learn how to drive and pass a test.
There are so few controls.  Usually a wheel or handle-bar or joystick
to make the vehicle turn.  Something to make it faster or slower.
Maybe something to make it go up or down.

So at most it's about 3 controls right?

Surely that should be even more intuitive or at least easier to spot
which control does what.  So why all the lessons?  It's crazy right?
Regards from
Tom :)




On 28 November 2013 20:59, A <publicface@bak.rr.com> wrote:
> On 11/28/2013 10:44 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
> > As far as I can see:
> >
> > o Format | Default Formatting removes both direct formatting (to
> > characters or paragraphs) and formatting by character styles.
> > o The Apply Style drop-down applies paragraph styles, so you'd expect
> > "Clear formatting" there to reset the paragraph style to Default - and it
> > does.  But it also does the same as Format | Default Formatting as well.
> For me at least, there's just too much to remember.  (You're in a maze of
> twisty little passages.  You're in a twisty maze of little passages.  Now
> you're in a twisty little passage with a maze.)  It's enough to make me lose
> my mind.  I can't keep track of all these various intracacies.  It sure
> would be nice to have some tool tips.
>
> Also, if "Apply Style" applies paragraph styles and only paragraph styles,
> why not have it say "Apply Paragraph Style" so as to make it obvious and
> avoid the obscurity.
>
> "Default Formatting" could either have a tool tip, or perhaps broken up into
> separate functions that do one thing each.
> i.e. 1) Remove formatting to characters.
> 2) Remove formatting to paragraphs.
> 3) Remove formatting by character styles.
>
> That would provide more control.  I don't know if there's an advantage to it
> - other than knowing precisely what function is being performed.
>
> In addition, I do NOT expect "Clear formatting" to reset the paragraph style
> to default.  I expect it to do 1,2,3 above.  i.e. Clear the formatting just
> as it implies.  I would expect "Reset Paragraph Style to Default" to reset
> the paragraph style to default.  There's far too much guesswork and intimate
> knowledge required here.  It's all quite NON-obvious.  Sure, if one works
> with it all the time one can learn these things - but I shouldn't have to be
> an expert - it should be intuitive and if it's not intuitive it should be
> spelled out in a tool tip.
>
>
> > I suspect that at least part of the problem here is that it is sometimes
> > difficult to see - especially with an inherited document - exactly how
> > formatting has been applied and consequently how it might be removed.
> Oh yes and that hits the nail on the head.  Now that the problem has been
> defined, the solution becomes easy.  Provide a way to SEE exactly how the
> formatting has been applied - and a quick link shortcut to removing it!
> Formatting/styles are - in my mind - similar to field codes.  They're hidden
> formulas and such that could be turned on and off for viewing at will.
>
> Just my opinions of course.
>
>
>
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