Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

On 09/11/2013 12:31 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> That was the problem. The version in the Ubuntu repos was not the G 
> version. Thanks for pointing that out. However, not all of the 
> features are working, or maybe I don't understand how to use them. All 
> ligature styles, small caps, old style numerals and fractions are 
> working. But the fancy No. and the 1st options do nothing. And the 
> superscript and subscript options don't work either, nor do the 
> slashed zero or minus sign, and the en-dash correction just adds a 
> space after a hyphen instead of converting it to an en-dash with 
> spaces. I'm also curious why this works only with the LinuxLibertineG 
> fonts. Adobe InDesign had these features 14 years ago, and they have 
> always worked with any OTF font installed on the computer, assuming 
> the font has the required glyphs properly encoded with the correct 
> Unicode values. I need to read up more on exactly what Graphite is. 

I know that over the years, some features haven't worked with LO and OO. 
As time has gone by, more and more features have worked. I, too, have 
had problems with the ordinal numbers features, but regular superscripts 
work for me as do en-dashes.

Keep in mind that the typography toolbar is a graphical user interface 
option for gaining access to the features. I've found that, sometimes, 
it doesn't work as well as actually inserting the codes into the font name.

For example, I have the following in the font box of my Default Style 
(without the quotation marks).

"Linux Libertine G:onum=1&itlc=2&lith=0&ss05=1&ss04=1&dash=1&hang=1"

These codes do the following:

onum=1 (Turn on Old Style Numbering)
itlc=2 (Adjust the spacing around italics text) Without this, the 
italics text gets jammed up next to the adjacent Roman text.
lith=0 (Don't use a "Th" ligature) I just don't like the Th ligature.
ss05=1 (Turn on old style upper case W, like that found in Garamond. 
Wikipedia uses Linux Libertine G for its logo. Check it out)
ss04=1 (Use fancier ampersands)
dash=1 (Replace hyphens with n-dashes *while typing* and after hitting 
the space bar after the hyphen)
hang=1 (Hanging punctuation. A really neat feature when using justified 
margins)

I find this a more effective way of applying the features, instead of 
using the toolbar, especially for style-wide features. Only if I want to 
apply direct formatting to a small selection of text do I use the 
typography toolbar.

As to comparing this to Adobe InDesign, that program is simply accessing 
the advanced features found in *some* OpenType fonts (OTF). Not all OTF 
have all the features, but if they have them, InDesign can access them, 
while LO cannot.

As I understand it, Libertine G was designed for use with Graphite, 
which is an alternative technology to OTF.

Also be careful about mixing methods. For example, if you want to apply 
small caps to Libertine G, do *not* select "small caps" in the LO Font 
dialog box. Doing so will generate the fake generated small caps that 
are too light. To get to Libertine's small caps, either select it from 
the typography toolbar, or enter "smcp=1" in the font name as in "Linux 
Libertine G:smcp=1"

It all takes some practice to get used to it, but keep at it. It's worth it.

Virgil

--
To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscribe@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted