Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base questions

How does switching to Firebird solve the issue of an embedded, all in
memory database?  I would be happy if LO offered an option (when
creating a db) to use embedded model or the split model.

Dave,

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014, at 03:27 AM, Alex Thurgood wrote:
> Le 01/08/2014 12:55, Wolfgang Keller a écrit :
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> > I never understood why anyone halfway sane in their minds would use an
> > "embedded" database anyway or why the developers of StarOffice/LO/OO
> > even considered it.
>
> As I recall, at the time of the release of OpenOffice2, it had to be
> like Access - but of course, as Sun was mainly running the show, that
> meant that it had to be multi-OS, thus Java based and a fairly "simple",
> "drop-in" piece of code with an appropriate licence. One would do well
> to remember that at the time, the internal Sun Base development team
> only comprised about 3 members of staff working full-time on the
> project, thus resources were painfully limited. It turned out to be not
> so simple after all, but that can be said about many things in software
> development.
>
> The issue of performance was raised even back then, and remains with us
> today - embedded Java bridging (via UNO JNI) of an in-memory database -
> loads of things to go potentially wrong at any given instance in the
> lifecycle of the application, notwithstanding that upgrading to newer
> versions of the db has always been fraught with complications, so a
> maintenance nightmare for OOo/AOO/LO developers. It can be done though,
> Fred Toussi (one of the lead developers on the hsqldb project) has, I
> believe, provided patches for the integration of an update to the hsqldb
> version code, but these have not been integrated due to the decision to
> move to Firebird.
>
> Database noobs wanted Access-like functionality and portability and
> multi-OS operation - the fact that they don't really get that today with
> LibreOffice Base is due more to lack of functional
> implementation/integration witn the other parts of LibreOffice than to
> the type of underlying db. Even MS Access has moved to a separated
> db/frontend paradigm, as far as I understand.
>
>
> Just to put things in perspective, there are, to my knowledge, currently
> no full/part time paid-to-work developers within the LibreOffice project
> that work on Base - everything done is voluntary, spare/free time
> involvement, so it is hardly surprising that things with Base move a
> little more slowly than modules such as Writer and Calc, in fact, it is
> my undestanding that the main voluntary developer spends most of his
> time in the project undoing the bugs/regressions caused by ongoing code
> development elsewhere within the LibreOffice project.
>
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>
> Alex
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