[libreoffice-users] Re: Feature Request: Lack of Outliner Functionality a Deal Breaker for Me

I took a look at Leo, Jedit, and OPML, and frankly, none of them are as
convenient as M$ Word. I'm using Word as both a word processor and an
outliner, and it's extremely convenient to be working on a document as an
outline, then move over to a word processing mode without losing the
outline structure, and work with formatting and other elements that are
convenient in that view, and then move back to outlining without losing my
formatting and other tools that are available in Word. When I'm writing in
outline format, I even want to just experience my novel as it will be read
on the page, and then go back to using the outliner.

In Eric B's first post, he recommended OPML but stated that once the
document was moved over to LO or OO, it was no longer in outline format and
could no longer be manipulated as an outline. This is what I found in
looking at every option that anyone here has recommended.

In http://cribsheet.opml.org, there are a lot of comments by people who
also want to have their outliner also act as a word processor. There's no
export facility in OPML that preserves the outline structure once you cut
and paste the text into your word processor, and the users include many
old-time outliner users who think that OPML is the best of the options.

The reason I'm currently sticking with Word is I need a tool that is both a
word processor and an excellent outliner, such that I don't have to cut and
paste, thereby losing the outline structure. I need to be able to
constantly go back and forth between the two views--which is how Word
handles it--as two views.

That's why I am not willing to give up my current use of Word. On the
cripsheet page for OPML, you'll find ample evidence that I'm not alone is
request this feature.



On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 2:03 PM, nabbler [via Document Foundation Mail
Archive] <ml-node+s969070n4077811h12@n3.nabble.com> wrote:

> On 10/10/2013, CougarB <[hidden email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4077811&i=0>>
> wrote:
>
> > I used outlining as my main method of work when a full-time technical
> > writer
> > in the 90s (e.g., Fujitsu Software in San Jose). While working for a
> java
> > house, I was so influenced by the negative developer reactions to MS,
> that
> > I've been wishing to move to OpenOffice or LibraOffice ever since they
> came
> > along. But you don't have the functionality that I need, and
> furthermore,
> > the discussions of outlining on this forum seem to miss the whole point,
> > from my point of view.
>
> There are many outliner tools out there, why use a word-processor when
> a text editor such as Leo or Jedit can achieve outline functionality?
>
> Alternatively, use LO writer styles and the navigator toolbar.
>
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