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Le 2010-10-27 17:30, AG a écrit :


Well, that's why it is all open and above board, the code is open, the
fields are explicitly defined, clear data specifications, and the system
mails out to LibO (cc the user) the reports. It isn't data mining: it is
voluntary, the default option is no, it can be stopped at any time, it
is participatory to the levels of detail the user is okay with, it
invites open transparent scrutiny, and posts the user a copy of the
report being sent.

Moreover, it wouldn't affect the installation of LibO - it is a
voluntary participation in research and users can opt in if they want,
and if not, then fine.

This sounds reasonable to me. I would prefer it if it were just a one time only thing. I don' think that there would be a need for a continuous feed of information from the users. I imagine the marketing team would have to take a hard look at this. I'll leave a copy of this on the marketing mailist.


I'm not defending the idea, nor am I saying that this is what
"popularity contest" does. I was asking after how feasible a basic
approach like that would be for LibO community's purposes.


Hi AG, thanks for the info. Don't worry, I always consider these threads as discussions and I hope I didn't sound like I was criticizing you and I apologize if it sounded this way.


Is there anything like that on the debian project?

Marc


Here's the scoop on the popularity contest itself, launched early 2004:

"The Debian popularity-contest is a concept created by Avery Pennarun a
few years ago. It set up a program on the hosts installing the
popularity-contest package, to email the list of packages installed
and in use to a central collection point. It also collect the host
architecture and we plan to collect kernel version and modules used as
well. The summaries are presented on <URL:http://popcon.debian.org/>
and used to sort the packages on the Debian CDs.

The information can be used in other areas as well. It can detect
which packages in the debian archive which aren't installed on any
hosts. Such packages should probably be checked out and possibly be
removed from the archive. It has already been used to check which
non-free packages are actually in use, while discussing the future for
non-free."

http://lwn.net/Articles/75753/

AG

Thanks. Always nice to know how some other distros are getting their information.

Marc


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