Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2020-Jul-08

Present: Sascha, Heiko
Comments from: Bogdabn, Mike, Stuart, Eike

Tickets/Topic

* Page break editing: "Text Flow > Breaks" needs clearer wording
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134440
   + Paragraph style > Text flow > _With_ page style (unclear if it applies to
     before or after the break)
   + "Continue with page style" (Bogdan)
   + "Next/Following" could do it as well but personally fine with what we have (Heiko)
   => no further opinion so keeping ticket open

* Hyperlink colours cannot be changed by changing Hyperlink style
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134456
   + Intended for Calc cells w/o autoformatting (Mike)
   + would be great to use Hyperlink character style in Writer (Heiko)
     but off-topic here
   + cannot follow the supposed benefit of hyperlink cell style and
     would remove this (Heiko)
   => up to discussion on BZ

* Keybinding is defined by UI language instead of locale setting
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134470
   + use keyboard locale (Eike)
   + no dropdown in tools > options > language to change the kb layout (Heiko)
     + and would clutter the UI if more controls are added
   + could be done as expert setting since the kb layout probably never changes
   => go for it

* UI Confusing icon names for Background Color / Highlight Color
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134432
   + rename Character Highlight Color / Paragraph Background Color
   + support the idea (Heiko)
   => do it

* Add control grouping "labeling" to NB Tabbed Interface
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134481
   + Tooltips are sufficient, WF (Stuart)
   + essential part of the contextual groups (Heiko)
   + drawback is vertical size
   => undecided discussion; keep open

Hi Heiko, *,

Kontakt Heiko Tietze (<heiko.tietze@documentfoundation.org>) kirjutas
kuupäeval K, 8. juuli 2020 kell 20:23:

* Keybinding is defined by UI language instead of locale setting
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134470
   + use keyboard locale (Eike)
   + no dropdown in tools > options > language to change the kb layout
(Heiko)
     + and would clutter the UI if more controls are added
   + could be done as expert setting since the kb layout probably never
changes
   => go for it

I'm not advocating another setting in that dialog, but why do you think
"the kb layout probably never changes"?
As far as I've seen, people who use multiple languages typically do switch
layouts:
1) Between Latin-based layouts with different "additional" characters
2) Between e.g. Latin / Cyrillic
(Unless they're nerds like me who have made their own layout with all the
characters they need for their languages - but I have an inkling that I'm
in the minority here :wink:

How would the expert setting even work, would it "lock" the kb layout in
LibO, regardless what the system-wide kb layout is? I sense trouble with
that approach.

Best regards,
Mihkel