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On 1/2/2011 12:47 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote:
On 1/2/11 7:15 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:

No, that was not the point. Italo Vignoli wrote: "LibreOffice writes
OOXML and will write OOXML, and this is
not under discussion." That is the point I objected to.

I might have been too harsh, but I reiterate the fact that this is not under discussion. TDF is a community based project, but decisions have to be taken by people in charge of taking them, and in this case these people are in the ESC (Engineering Steering Committee).

The se are the bylaws of TDF (you are free to check).

I am a member of the Steering Committee, and I totally second this decision just because it makes sense for the users (as I have tried to explain in another message). LibreOffice is the office suite with the widest document format support, and this is a plus.

As long as OOXML is a standard recognized by ISO, it makes sense to support it completely.

This is different from the fact that we are trying to make ODF the only winning standard, and that we are telling people that they should not use OOXML.

It should be a community decision, not one made by the developers. Or
based on LibreOffice being based on Go-OO code which already had OOXML
write support because of the Novell agreement with Microsoft.

I think that your problem is the Microsoft/Novell agreement, as you have mentioned it several times. This belongs to the AGAINST saga that we do not want to pursue. Writing OOXML is FOR interoperability, and so it is better than not writing OOXML because is AGAINST Microsoft.

In addition, TDF is a software project, and therefore some decisions have to be taken by people professional at developing software. If you want to have a say in software development you are welcome to contribute to the code and you will soon be able to talk to the ESC, or maybe become a member of the ESC.

TDF is a community driven project, not a mailing list driven project. Community is not just writing in a mailing list, is a lot different and a lot more than that. I do not think that we ever gave the perception that this is a mailing list driven project.

Italo, one of the things that would make me (and maybe others here) feel better about OOXML support is if writing to the XP formats causes LibO to make compromises that do not have to be made going to OOXML. That is, if documents developed under an ODF application can be converted to a higher-quality product, in terms of compatibility of features and formatting, when going to OOXML (even in the Transitional formats) than they can when going to XP. Is that the case?

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