RE: [libreoffice-users] Badly formatted document

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@font-face
        {font-family:Calibri;
        panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
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        {margin:0cm;
        font-size:11.0pt;
        font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        color:blue;
        text-decoration:underline;}
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        {mso-style-type:export-only;}
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I don’t think this is an old version of LO. I suspect it was written in word, then the pdf 
produced, then the Open Document version created from the PDF. I have both the PDF and the ODT 
versions. There is no HTML version. 



I can’t use the PERL script. I don’t know PERL and I suspect by the time I was confident enough to 
try I could have cut and pasted everything I need manually!




I put the PDF through an online converter and got a very clean DOCX version, so that at least is a 
start. The document uses page styles. What I find confusing is that the original ODT version has 91 
custom page styles for 47 pages. The DOCX version has only 39 page styles, which still seems a lot. 
It isn’t something I use a lot though, so I don’t know if this is normal or an artefact of the 
conversion. It doesn’t appear to use footers, but text in a frame fixed to the bottom by inserting 
enough line breaks. Again this may be from the conversion.




To put this in context, this is a policy document from a public body, originally issued for 
information in PDF and ODT formats. Both versions use columns, which makes reading onscreen a bit 
of a nightmare. It also includes tables split across columns and also across pages, without 
repeating headers.  All in all I get the impression that the original document layout is a bit 
kludged together. While that may be a feature of the conversion, given the mess the ODT file is in, 
I can’t see any benefit from providing it, other than ticking an accessibility box and if tested 
would probably fail. I can’t see a screen reader making much sense of it.


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Side topic from my original problem but the UK government guidance on accessible formats is 
here:https://www.gov.uk/guidance/publishing-accessible-documents


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From:Steve EdmondsSent:04 July 2022 20:50To:users@global.libreoffice.orgSubject:Re: 
[libreoffice-users] Badly formatted document




Is it possible it is an old document from an earlier version of LO.


A while back the way LO anchored images (and frames) was changed, images
<p class=MsoNormal>in tables were particularly affected throwing out text positioning also


and I had to go through all my manuals and change my image anchoring to


"as character".




On 05/07/2022 04:59, Ian Bertram wrote:


> I have been sent a graphic heavy document in ODT format. However it looks as if it has been badly 
> converted from a pdf file. The layout is scrambled, headers don’t align properly and there are a 
> host of other issues. It is also in columns. Is there a simple way to strip out everything bar 
> the words? I have tried saving it as a txt file, but this loses a lot of the paragraph numbering 
> and introduces other layout issues. Saving in rtf format is even worse.


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> The best I have managed so far has been by converting all the text to a single style and removing 
> the columns. All the graphics however overlap text and it is often very difficult to find the 
> anchor point.


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> </o:p>


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> Sent fromMailfor Windows


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