Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Libreoffice.org website dev sitrep 2011-02-02 - [Was: Work on the "Why?" pages]

Hi Charles, all,

just for clarification:

charles.h.schulz schrieb:
> Hello Narayan, everyone,
>
> [... 6 months ...]
>
> Until that stage:

> 1) no discussion about Drupal on this list.
>
> 2) no "major overhaul" of the website.

But implementation of UX and Design - I can't determine if this will be
a major or minor overhaul.
> What this does not mean: 1) we can't change the way some of the
> content is presented on the website. (see the wiki page for this) 2)
> we can't improve the website in minor ways. 3) we can't fix bugs.

Double negation:
It is allowed to change the presentation of the website content.
It is allowed to improve the website (whatever "minor ways" mean)
It is allowed to fix bugs.
> Yes, there comes a time when the website is "completed" and where
> only incremental improvements are needed.

But this goal has not been achieved. Please read Christoph's comments on
the wiki.

> Again: LibreOffice is not about a website nor about letting people
> satisfy their passion about web design, at least not primarily.

But one if it's goals is to reach people - therefore a good website is 
important.

> We do not want a website that keeps on changing because people think
> their way is better. We (the SC) do not want to reopen yet another
> thread about these topics.

The website team had to hold off with their comments until the present 
website was ready. This means, that it is *now* exactly the time to 
discuss optimizations.

I can't believe that you - and the entire SC - think the website doesn't 
need any improvement.

At the moment development is going in the wrong direction (text vs 
graphics) - and this must be allowed to discuss.

> The level of energy and effort spent on
> this topic (the website) is ridiculously high compared to what we
> need to to work on.

Right - but I hope this will settle, once the team found it's common way.

> We're therefore glad that there are people who
> want to help but there comes a point where it's not helpful, because
> someone's always pushing, pushing and always pushing. Same thing with
> respect to the website confcall: we haven't agreed on working again
> on overhauling the website, we haven't agreed on changing the website
> team, which for the sake of clarity is composed of the same 4 people
> the SC has appointed.

I'm quite sure you don't mean what you wrote: The website team doesn't 
consist of 4 people only!

It's a larger group - with the four people as "guides" in their 
respective area of interest.

This doesn't mean that their opinions are the only reasonable ones, they 
have to follow the expertise from the team (and outside experts) in 
certain cases, even if this is not what they would do when they had to 
decide on their own.

By the way: The SC decision for the four "leads" doesn't include a 
marketing expert - perhaps this could be reconsidered (or we cross-post 
our main questions to the marketing list).

Best regards

Bernhard

Best regards

Bernhard

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