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Hi Nik,

thanks for (still) maintaining the wiki page and all the related work
items!

Am Dienstag, den 22.03.2011, 14:32 -0400 schrieb Rob Cummings:
I did a little playing around in Inkscape earlier and it appears that it
saves all the alpha info correctly in the SVG.  I could not get it to work
correctly for EPS, but that doesn't mean it's not possible.

Rob
On Mar 22, 2011 1:45 PM, "Christopher Stark" <christopherstark@gmx.de>
wrote:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Motif#Alpha_problem
[...]
I've uploaded a PSD file containing the Motif with Alpha as it is
intended to be, here;
http://tdf.nikashsingh.com/misc/ScatterWithTransparency.psd "/

Okay, I can import it into Gimp, but that doesn't solve the core
problem ... so would it be possible to export it to SVG (whether it
works or not) and to make it available. I think that would help to have
a look at it in a vector format.

By the way why don't you work with open source inkscape instead of a
2000 $ monster? These things can be done with inkscape as well (and in
my opinion inkscape is one of the best open source programs out there)

If it is not possible to export it it shouldn't be too difficult to
rebuild this in inkscape I think

Well, people chose their tools for different reasons ... may it be
familiarity or other stuff (e.g. full CMYK support for "real" printing).

Since we have chosen a motif, the more important question is how to
transform the graphics into something more people can work with.
Christopher, you statements seem to convey that you are an "advanced
Inkscape user", could you please have a look at it? That'll be very
cool...

Cheers,
Christoph


Am 22.03.2011 15:01, schrieb Nik:
Hi Jaron, All!

Some bad news =( , but first...


On 3/22/2011 11:33 PM, Jaron Kuppers wrote:
Hi Nik,

Fantastic work Nik, both on the "Scatter" design and on organizing
the motif
project.
Thanks Jaron! it's feedback like that that keeps a volunteer very
happy =)
I think it resulted in a lot of great ideas which might find uses
someday in other things (like advertisement or event media). It has
been
great to show the potential of this community through this project and I
look forward to seeing what other major tasks the community can
tackle. GO
Design! ;-)
+1, GO Design! =)
Cheers,
Jaron

To all,

I've uploaded a usable version of the Scatter Motif to the Motif page,
but unfortunately it is only in PNG format right now (although Hi-res);
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Motif
Ideally I'd like to make vector versions available instead. Here's my
problem...

The Motif uses complex transparency in the Design. It needs the
support of a full Alpha channel in order to appear correctly.
This is not a problem for raster formats (like the PNG file currently
available, GOD
who is that?? ;)

BLESS PNG!)
But so far I have had no luck exporting to a vector format that
doesn't use binary transparency, including SVG and EPS.

This is not usually a problem for me because I use Adobe Creative
Suite and support between the applications in CS5 is /superbly/
achieved via "smart-objects", but when it comes time to export, well,
we get the problem I'm facing now, which is best demonstrated in image
form... I've documented the problem at the bottom of the Motif page
and added an image depicting the problem;
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Motif#Alpha_problem

If anyone can lend a hand in this, I'd be most grateful. Since I don't
use anything but Creative Suite, I can't even test for alpha support
in other apps.
I've uploaded a PSD file containing the Motif with Alpha as it is
intended to be, here;
http://tdf.nikashsingh.com/misc/ScatterWithTransparency.psd

Also, while we are nutting this last step out, would either Christoph
or Bernhard be able to raise the Scatter Motif with the SC to get it
confirmed as "officially approved artwork" ?

Please don't let this setback hinder your desire to use the Motif. The
uploaded PNG is hi-res enough (300dpi, 2500x2500 pixels) for most
applications for now.
Feel free to download and fiddle, it would be great to see some web
banners/CD labels/print material etc soon? =)

-Nik





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