Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

Hi Clayton, :slight_smile:

True, but perhaps screenshots from Linux Mint would be better? After all, LM
is green, and that seems to be the current theme.

Sure, that's fine... Could you please maybe mail me one just to see
what it looks like?

So I guess you just read Jaxson? :wink:

BTW, Jaxson, are you interested in working on some of the stuff in the
Features section? Jeremy Cartwright has currently "checked out"
Features > Writer, but would you maybe like to work on something else?

David Nelson

I'm... not... running it right now, maybe that's a question for the
community, but here's a few screenies.
http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/linux-mint-499x383.jpg
http://www.linuxmint.com/pictures/screenshots/gloria/12.png

Hi Clayton, :slight_smile:

Well, with the brown window frames, it actually looks not dissimilar
to Ubuntu, so that would be fine. But probably you can configure a Mac
to meet that same "constraint", too. I was just thinking about
avoiding breaking visually too much with the existing screenshots, but
it's not a big issue. The only *real* constraint is avoiding Windows
screenshots except where we can't.

David Nelson

What's the problem with Windows? Wouldn't Mac be the same then?

Hi, :slight_smile:

What's the problem with Windows? Wouldn't Mac be the same then?

No, various project members asked me to not do Windows screenshots
because of us potentially being sued on a copyright issue. The only
exceptions ATM are the Windows installation instuctions and maybe
certain New Features and Fixes specific to Windows.

AFAIK, getting sued is not perceived as a risk with Apple.

David Nelson

Because they don't issue out their own productivity software? Or is it
because they aren't on such a sue spree? Doesn't matter either way, I get
your drift.
Also, did anybody get my suggested publishing? And is there any sort
of collaboration settings as well?

I'd love to get involved with the whole documentation process - I can't do anything other than the most basic coding, I can appreciate good design but can't design very well myself, but I do have good technical writing abilities. By work on, do you mean proof-read etc.? I'm not sure on how to go about anything at the moment.

Jaxson Lee

Hi Clayton, :slight_smile:

Also, did anybody get my suggested publishing? And is there any sort
of collaboration settings as well?

I looked at your changes. They look fine. Feel free to develop the
content further? Expand a bit? I did see a typo, but corrected it...
:wink:
You want to check for any more of those? If possible, try and avoid
line breaks and prefer using a full new paragraph?

I see you didn't take account of Jaxson's comments regarding the
application names? Did you see his suggestions in this thread? Maybe
fix that?

I upgraded your permissions to Publisher. You can now hit "Save and
Publish" and we'll all get an email notification of your publication.

HTH. :wink:

David Nelson

Hi Jaxson, :slight_smile:

I'd love to get involved with the whole documentation process - I can't do
anything other than the most basic coding, I can appreciate good design but
can't design very well myself, but I do have good technical writing
abilities.  By work on, do you mean proof-read etc.? I'm not sure on how to
go about anything at the moment.

You want to sign up for an account and I give you author permissions?

https://www.libreoffice.org/ForumMemberProfile/register

If so, tell me when you signed up and we can figure out some stuff for
you to work on if you like... :wink:

David Nelson

Awesome. Yes, I got all of the messages, however I did the fixes first. Then
for some reason went on and started correcting the layout. Then bastardized
it, but forgot to make it uniform (I would be looking at all of those pages,
choosing the best layout, and applying it to all of them from there.) Also,
the problem is redundancy. I would prefer it if all of the pages weren't the
same, except for the business page have one point that business related, and
one for home users, etc.

Also, regarding the typo, for some reason I couldn't find a spell checker
just in case. Have I overlooked something?

Hi Clayton, :slight_smile:

Also, regarding the typo, for some reason I couldn't find a spell checker
just in case. Have I overlooked something?

Look for the ABC button in the toolbar.

Awesome. Yes, I got all of the messages, however I did the fixes first. Then
for some reason went on and started correcting the layout. Then bastardized

My advice would be to think about the draft principally now, and we'll
re-visit the layout later. Try and fit in with other site pages,
layout-wise: h2, p, ul - dead simple. Avoid direct formatting, it
would only make work later?

Feel free to re-write as if you think you have better ideas. The only
constraint would be to give a good answer to that question in the
title.

2 cents. HTH. :wink:

David Nelson

How about this format:
(Note that there will be consistences across the pages, with more specific
answers towards the bottom, ranked by importance. I will probably be keeping
the double bullet point feature for the explanation of the software. Or
perhaps only mention the specific pieces that are relevant to that user?)

LibreOffice boasts many *input specific boast here (i.e.
usable/stable/easy/complete/compatible)* features for *input user type
here".

   - LibreOffice comes as a complete office suite, including
   - A word processor
   - A presenator
   - etc...
   - LibreOffice is free etc
   - LibreOffice blah blah blah

~Fin

-Clayto(w)n Walker

Hi Clayton, :slight_smile:

Jaxson commented:

"One thing that I was going to mention (my main reason for joining
this list actually) is the inconsistency between the application
descriptions on the Why for...? pages.

Take Impress - described as a "A presentation", "Presentation" and
"Presentation manager" on different pages. If we're describing the
application, it should be something like Presentation manager or
Presentation software, rather than just Presentation. That would
describe the document produced by it. Same for the spreadsheet - Calc
is a spreadsheet package, spreadsheet program and a spreadsheet
application but is not a spreadsheet.

Then on the Why for NFPs and NGOs page, it describes tasks that the
suite can do. "Word processor" is not a task nor is "Diagramming and
charting tool". Better to make it like the other pages, and describe
the applications contained within the suite IMO."

Me, I prefer: word processor, spreadsheet/spreadsheet package,
presentation manager, diagramming and charting package, formula
editor, and database front end.

The real thing that matters is consistency across pages...

HTH. :wink:

David Nelson

THAT I can do. Typin' up sum editz.

Hi Clayton, :slight_smile:

Don't be shy to pad out that content in the Why? pages, if you have
inspiration. It was too telegraphic for my taste. Search engine
spiders eat text. You don't have to be too verbose, but...

HTH. :wink:

David Nelson

Alright, I'll work on that. Actually, I won't be doing anything else
tonight, it's late here, I live in Italy. So... I'll be pulling all of the
current writing into LibreOffice (ironic, no?) to compile a general format
for each page, with pieces which will be uniform across all pages, and from
there I'll pop 'em back into SilverStripe where I'll add the little
specifics and finish the formatting.
The information is good... just not explained well.

Hi David, Clayton, *,

I wonder if this thread is on the right list. Maybe you should discuss this on the
website list, because it is related to the website and not everyone, who is working
on the website is reading this list.

Just my 2 €-Cent

Regards,
Andreas

Hi :slight_smile:

Apple are a form of Bsd, which is unix-based, and so a lot of the UI is very
similar to stuff we have in gnu&linux and often originated in gnu&linux. So it
might be a bit more difficult to make a fuss. Their licensing agreements are a
bit less draconian too.

Also Apple are keen for people to write apps for their app-store and really keen
to promote that. Whereas Windows just make speeches but then contradict
themselves with their EULAs and licensing agreements. Well, thats the way it
seems to me at the moment anyway.

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Hi :slight_smile:

I was just trying to be amusing but at least i made myself chuckle so it 'kinda'
worked.

From the marketing lists i get the impression that we are not aiming at
corporate/business customers except those that are already using OpenOffice
although that might be different in countries that are not predominantly
English-speaking. So, i think a reasonably professional, "business-like but
friendly" approach would be about right.

Many apologies for my bad humour :wink:
Good luck and have fun, regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Hi Clayton,

Because they don't issue out their own productivity software? Or is it
because they aren't on such a sue spree? Doesn't matter either way, I get
your drift.

No, because Apple does not appear to be as possessive about the
copyright on its UI as Microsoft is, which has a specific notice on its
Legal page about using parts of its UI and icons in documentation,
including the requirement to obtain authorisation from Microsoft for the
use thereof. The history of the design and copyrights of the Apple UI
has its roots in NextStep / Gnu OpenStep development, the latter of
which is still ongoing today, which may be one of the reasons why Apple
is less inclined to be obsessive about it.

Alex