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Hi :)
We might not need or want a third decade of MS dominance but that is exactly what we have been 
handed.  We have to work from where we really are NOT from where we wish we were.  

We cannot rely on people starting to use LibreOffice and magically already all their previous 
documents somehow magically change to ODF.  We can't even realistically expect people to 
immediately switch to always using ODF from the moment they start using LibreOffice.  Not if they 
need other people to be able to read and work with their documents.  We certainly can't rely on MS 
Office's implementation of ODF even for just reading ODF 1.2 (Extemded).  People can really only 
start changing to ODF slowly and only after they have started using LibreOffice (or OpenOffice or 
the various others).  

It's quite arrogant to refuse to help people deal with problems with the MS formats.  E-letter is 
honest about it, telling people not to use LibreOffice at all.  That is the only option if we 
refuse to deal with MS formats, just stop people from using non-MS products.  

Oddly the entire rest of the project is completely in support of supporting MS formats as much as 
possible.  It is only this list that even questions it.  The other lists are happy to work in the 
real world while this list has people that have a lot of difficulty with "the truth on the ground". 
 So, again it is only this list that tries to alienate  new users and tries to push people away 
from using LibreOffice in the real world.  

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 2/3/12, Andreas Säger <villeroy@t-online.de> wrote:

<snip />

All I wish is a little more self confidence regarding the ODF standard. We don't need a third 
decade where virtually everybody is occupied with MS interfaces, MS documents, MS browsers, MS 
APIs, MS protocols and extensions of all kinds.


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