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Hi everyone!

Am Montag, den 04.10.2010, 22:00 +0200 schrieb Volker Merschmann:
Ideally, I want QA folks to take notice if the Devs start debating
details of specific features, and conversely, I want Devs to take
notice of QA talking about specific "problem areas" in the product.

But you should also be aware that there are much qa-people which are
doing just testing.
These are not so "technical" and wouldn't like to read or even
understand the things on the dev-list. And there is much
organisational stuff around the testing which wouldn't interest the
developers.

Interesting discussion ... I think I do understand all your reasons,
although they aren't fundamentally different.

Same is true for a topic like UX (User Experience). You have to collect
material for UX, you have to discuss issues within UX, it is required to
kick-off activities from UX (e.g. collect tiny usability issues). But on
the other hand, it is extremely important to keep in touch with
development - to be consulted, to understand the other persons'
problems, ...

So I think we'll end up with different infrastructure bits for each of
the teams. But if it is about collaboration, we shouldn't be that far
away from each other - may it be working in small teams or being located
on the same mailing list.

Somehow, we have to bridge that gap ...

Cheers,
Christoph

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