[libreoffice-users] Re: Tell me it's not true

Le 29/02/2012 18:15, Dan Lewis a écrit :

Hi Dan,

>       What would most people who are new to Base think after reading the
> negative comments about Base? Statements about how hard it is to learn
> (comparing learning at least some of it to the difficulty of learning a
> new language). No one seems to be able to give references that would
> help. (No one has so far.)

On the contrary, I think you'll find that in the past (and I'm not 
referring to this thread) we have directed people to the OOo Base forums 
because that is where people with Base questions have found (at least 
partial, if not complete) answers. If we decide to ignore the existing 
information, advice and caveats, whilst it is still available and for 
the most part relevant, I feel we are just deluding ourselves.

>       OK, I have had my say. I will likely delete any replies that come
> from this thread because I have seen people justify their actions in the
> past threads. This is suppose to be a list to help others, and their
> comments are not likely to do that. Besides, any replies to me need to
> consist of references for getting the most from Base. Other than help in
> learning more about how to use it, I don't need.

Dan, most of us who have commented here have worked, and still continue 
to work, with LO and databases in some form or another. However, we have 
learnt from much trial and error, late nights, gnashing of teeth and 
tearing of hair, some of us over a period of more than 10 years, that 
ultimately pragmatism must trump the day. Has that stopped me from 
starting the migration of the French Base FAQ to the English LO wiki ? 
Absolutely not.

On the otherhand, after more than 15 years of using StarOffice, then 
OpenOffice.org and now LibreOffice, majoritarily with database 
interaction I have absolutely no delusions about what Base can or can 
not do. That doesn't mean I've lost interest in it, but I'm perfectly 
willing to recognise its failings in comparison to those products to 
which it has always been touted as "equivalent", i.e. FileMakePro (even 
Apple's Bento is better than Base from a usability perspective), Lotus 
Approach, Access, and even some of the cloud DB/Form/Framework services 
now being offered for free in most cases. I call that realism, not 
negativism.


Since you mentioned references, I would say to anyone interested in 
Base, that they would do well to "start" by looking at the OOo Base forum :


http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewforum.php?f=13&sid=73586058af5a5128696d435f0987e283

or even this one :

http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewforum.phtml?f=10


Almost every and any question related to using Base has been posted 
there at some time. Yes, you have to trawl, yes you have to formulate a 
search query to find things there, but really, this mailing list is a 
far, far below what can be found on that forum in terms of breadth and 
depth.


Alex





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