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On 07/24/2012 05:06 AM, Anthony Easthope wrote:
I have a comment on the error dialogue.
I once got into a heated debate with my ICT teacher earlier on this year
and in the debate the comment was made by her that: "Microsoft with that
error dialogue are really just trying to insinuate that their products
are superior to others"

I in a way kind of agree with her because Microsoft have always insisted
that the MO range of extensions should be the industry standard. Due to
this sort of approach I find roadblocks when trying to submit work in
.ODT format to institutions such as NZQA (New Zealand Qualifications
Association). they keep getting angry at me for using a so called "UN
recognized file format". I have now managed to persuade my school and
some other institutions that for a truly open submission and form of
collaboration that the use of ODF standards should be encouraged. the
major problem with persuasion is that people are not willing to make the
change is due to the lack of knowledge of understanding of opensource
and how it can really become better than commercial counterparts.
IMHO most people use the default settings of the software they are provided and do not make an effort to learn much about the software's capabilities. So if support for a set of file formats is not transparent they will probably panic if they see an "error" message when opening a file.

Another problem for FOSS is that our marketing budget is nil and depends on word of mouth almost exclusively. IMHO most people do not understand the motivation of the FOSS community of developing and supporting useful software for all users. Thus, FUD is often used to scare them away claiming that many projects become abandonware without mentioning that commercial abandonware is also a major problem (any still use Ami-pro?).

With education there can be a global revolution in the sense that open
source programs such as LO will become commonplace and the illegal act
of actions such as piracy (search on youtube "crack microsoft offfice
2010" to see what I mean!) will almost cease,

Regards
Anthony Easthope


On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, at 09:03 PM, Don Parris wrote:
I would like to take something of a straw poll, if that's ok.  I simply
want to know whether any of you have shared documents using the ODF
format
with MS Office users (preferably in a business environment), and what was
the reaction?  What problems

I am not seeking advice on how to share documents with MS Office users.
  Nor am I interested in an in-depth analysis of why one might experience
problems in sharing such documents.  I simply want to know your
experience.

I have been sharing a simple spreadsheet document between LO (at home)
and
MSO (at work) in the OD format.  The experience has been interesting on
the
MS Office side of it.  I get error messages (that don't seem to be real
errors), and if I choose the "repair" option, it claims to fix the
errors,
and even gives me a link to click to see the list of alleged corrections.
  The list is just a near-empty XML document.  And to save a document in
  ODF
raises a warning *every single time*, with no opportunity to say "stop
warning me".

I know most of us still have to deal with both suites.  I just wonder if
anyone else (how many???) has experienced similar issues.

Thanks,
Don
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