Re: register true origins (was Re: [libreoffice-users] inserting (exactly) a line before a paragraph using styles)

On 08/07/2012 06:10 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> Words that are obscure within a particular technical language or very localised geographical area 
> do sometimes take a long time before they reach the lofty academic's towers.  Occasionally an 
> academic or two might venture forth into strange lands to see and report what is really going on.  
> For example txting had been in widespread usage and the main language for almost an entire 
> generation before some of the more obvious examples reached any type of dictionary.  People think 
> language is static but if you travel across England you find that every 20miles or so different 
> words appear or vanish and usage varies hugely.  I live in almost a city but even 5miles outside in 
> any direction the locals are almost incomprehensible = it's still English, or at least it's spoken 
> in England.
Add different usages in nominally English speaking countries such as 
bonnet or boot in UK vs US usage.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
I think the problem as I have been following the thread is the old 
technical printing terminology has crept into LO but very few people are 
aware of its technical meaning. The terminology is probably a very 
accurate description of what is being done but to those of us who not 
familiar with printing terminology it is borderline gibberish. The real 
issue is how to handle the terminology, keep the accurate if obscure 
terminology or replace it with a less precise but more generally 
understood terminology.
> --- On Tue, 7/8/12, TomW <tomwebb@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>
> From: TomW <tomwebb@fairpoint.net>
> Subject: Re: register true origins (was Re: [libreoffice-users] inserting (exactly) a line before a 
> paragraph using styles)
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Tuesday, 7 August, 2012, 10:47
>
> On 2012-08-07 01:03, Andrew Brager wrote:
> > On 8/6/2012 6:47 PM, Dan wrote:
> > > Doug wrote:
> > > > On 08/06/2012 08:58 PM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
> > > > > On 07/08/2012 at 02:40, Andrew Brager<apb3304@bak.rr.com>  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Without meaning to fan the flames, can you provide another citation
> > > > > > outside of LO that supports the theory espoused?
> > > > > That "register true" is for "adjust to baseline" or whatever?
> > > > >
> > > > > Take any book about typography. I can cite at least three different book titles
> > > > > from memory that will support it. But they are all in Polish, so I doubt they
> > > > > will be much of use here.
> > > > ROTFL!  --doug
> > > http://www-10.lotus.com/ldd/lswiki.nsf/dx/General_Glossary_ls301
> > >
> > > I found this link. You will have to search down through this article. Lotus, I believe is an IBM 
> > > product as in Lotus Symphony. It has the same two paragraphs that LO and AOO have.
> > >
> > > --Dan
> > Again, without meaning to fan any flames or otherwise sound insulting, quite frankly in my opinion the link 
> > is a weak one for various reasons, including lack of a verifiable author with impressive sounding 
> > credentials.  I was looking more for something along the lines of a historical citation.  Perhaps a book or 
> > article about the history of the printing press, newspapers and/or typography.  Towards that end I looked at 
> > various sources for typography, none of them mention "register true" that I could find. A google 
> > search on register true turns up only the LO help page.
> >
> > It's just odd to me that something that is supposed to have been in use for many years isn't mentioned anywhere authoritative 
> > (other than perhaps a few Polish books in Miroslaw's memory).  Granted the term is relatively obscure, but 
> > "parellelepiped" is in the dictionary and that arguably is even more obscure.  Other obscure words include 
> > "ninnyhammer" and "flibbertigibbet" which I've only just learned.
> Andrew:
>
> Try googling for the following, starting on page 23.
>
>
>   Bookbinding and Its Auxiliary Branches: Punching, crimping, cycletting ...
>
> By John J. Pleger
>
>
> TomW
>
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