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On 06/23/2012 06:11 PM, Libre User wrote:
As one of those who is enjoying the benefits of all the work you put
into these dictionaries, THANK YOU.!!!

Jerry
+1

At 01:22 PM 6/23/2012, you wrote:
 So, clearly there are a lot of people out there quietly enjoying
using your works.
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <webmaster@krackedpress.com>
Subject: [libreoffice-users] "English" dictionary extension
To: "LibreO - Users Global" <users@global.libreoffice.org>
Date: Saturday, 23 June, 2012, 19:53


With all the "issues" about my version of a British word list
dictionary, I decided to get out of my sick bed and do something that
would make the same people more angry at me.

If you do not want to use my spelling word dictionaries, you do not
need to. Use someone else's.  I just thought I could help LO in my
own little way.  If all people who want to help is made to feel like
I have over my work on my versions of a spelling extension, then I
would wonder why people would want to help make LO better. So, for
those who do not like my work, do not use it.

NOW - what I did. . . .

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http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.5-installs/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/kpp-english-dictionary-790k-word-list.oxt


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I took all three 638K word lists - American, British, and Canadian -
and compared them.  As far as I could tell, there were less than 100
words that were not in at least two out of the three lists.  I could
be wrong, but that is what I came up with.

Then I added lists of medical and chemical words to the large word
list to make it a total of 790,673 words.  I planned to add the
medical and chemical words at a later date, but I did so now
instead.  I still have more words to add, but I will have to wait to
rebuild that list of new words [since I deleted my work when I was
sick last year and was switching drives for storage of these working
files].

I will not tell you where I got these words from, but as far as I
will tell you ALL of the words came from "GNU - General Public
License" sources or equivalent.

If you choose to search for word lists you will find the ones I have
found and merged to create the "master" word lists I use for the
creation three versions of the English Language spelling
dictionaries.  Everything I did can be done by anyone who would want
to do so.

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AS for spellings that are not matching everyone's preferred spelling,
that is easy . . . .


Languages Evolve and even in the same country people can spell a word
differently and still be correct.


If you go to

http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/spanish-dictionaries

and look, you will find Spanish dictionaries for various regions. 
You want to argue with them that they are not spelling their words
correctly?  No, the spellings of words evolve and can be used in each
variation.  Do I tell people that "colour" or "menue" are not the
correct spellings of these words, since they are not the spellings I
use?  They should be "color" and "menu" according to my email client,
BUT both ways are spelled correctly if you look at resource that does
not say this is the preferred spelling so any other correct spellings
are not to be used anymore.  The people in my building who saw
"menue" spelled this way could not tell me that is was not correct,
when it is not the "most preferred" spelling method.

Look at the French.  As far as I was told, they have revised their
spellings of some words and now teach this new spelling method in
their schools.  But, the old ways are still going to be out there in
books and other printed documents.  Look at what Oxford English is
vs. British English.  "They" are changing the way you spell many
common words [my opinion for common words and spelling] but if the
public do not want to use the newest version of the words, then who
will force them?  If the public think it is not a good idea to use
the newest ways to spell the words, then is the public wrong or the
people who thought up the new ways of spelling of the words?  Look
into the past of the "English" language.  It has not been around for
2000 years, 1000 years, or even 500.  The "English" language grew out
of communities coming in contact with each other and sharing their
words.  These groups of larger communities share with others and
slowly a new
 language grows out of the older ones.  ALSO smaller communities form
and over time the words they use, and their spelling of those words,
will change.  As far as my English professors understands, this will
always happen.  Language Evolves.

How many "English" words actually came from words in the French and
German regions of Europe?   Language shares words and the use can
become part of their "communal" language.

You can tell me I am wrong, and I can say that you are.  We are both
neither right or wrong.  The lady who was born and raised 200 miles
south of me who spells "menue/menu" her way is not wrong, but she
grew up in a different sub-community in the USA than I did.  There
were more of one ethnic group that moved into her region of the
country than did in mine.  My father was raised on a different region
than my mother.  We all were taught how to speak in areas of
different ethnic diversity.  Our words we used were different for
some common things, AND so was some of the ways that those words were
spelled.  The language evolved in these communities and as each
community member moved to other communities, the words [and spelling]
spread to other communities, through their use and their children's use.

<http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.5-installs/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/kpp-english-dictionary-790k-word-list.oxt>Language
evolves.

NO one sub-group can force another to use the new ways.  If they are
not used by enough people, then those new ways are given up.

The same goes with spelling of the words you use.  Over the past 200
many ways of spelling words have changed and were used by enough
people that those ways became preferred over the older ways, but
those older ways are rarely, if ever, removed from the written
language.  They are just not used as much as they once were.


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