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Precisely this, by supporting 'partner' applications you not only improve
the viability of LibreOffice as a valid Microsoft Office alternative, but
also that of other related projects and some cross promotion and
recommendation makes the whole of the FLOSS office ecosystem more viable. I
think a goal for marketing in 2022 should be some sort of 'outreach' to
partner projects with the aim of creating a collaboration or working group
for the benefit of all. I'm sure that other projects would be happy to
collaborate. Unfortunately in the FLOSS world there are too many silos,
hopefully 2022 will see this change somewhat.

Kind regards

On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 3:11 PM Nigel Verity <nigelverity@hotmail.com>
wrote:

James makes a very good point. If you have a problem with MS Office you go
down a single route to a single POC to try and get it resolved. If you had
different support organisations for each of Outlook, Teams, OneNote etc,
then MS Office would be very unattractive - especially in the enterprise
space.

A replacement solution based on LO and other open source applications
would be greatly enhanced if such a single POC existed. It doesn't mean
other projects need to be subsumed into TDF. Some collaboration and a
common support portal would allow each to continue independently, but with
shared benefits and incentives for co-operation.

Nige


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*From:* James Harking <james.harking@gmail.com>
*Sent:* 30 December 2021 14:36
*To:* sophi <sophi@libreoffice.org>
*Cc:* TDF Marketing <marketing@global.libreoffice.org>
*Subject:* Re: R: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ideas wanted for "How we're
different" part of new LibreOffice website

Hi Sophie,

What I'm trying to 'tease' out is that LibreOffice in its current form can
not be a replacement for Microsoft Office, but clearly it is central to
this. As an example I have never heard of Blue Mind. What would go a long
way in my opinion is some guidance from the Document Foundation on
solutions that can replace missing functionality that an
enterprise/institution would have if migrating to FLOSS 'office' software
to form strategic partnerships with partner projects to grow the FLOSS
alternatives in this space. This will undoubtedly increase the viability of
LibreOffice as well as help projects that could support goals to the
Document Foundation such as Project Libre, Betterbird and Joplin.This is
why I suggested previously that a working group with associated projects
would be beneficial for the whole of the ecosystem.

Currently to replace the totality of Microsoft Office 365 takes around 5 or
6 applications I suspect which is a difficult ask given that you can go to
one provider for a solution but if there is a recommended migration path
using a number of 'partner' projects then it is an easier sell.

Kind regards

On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 2:11 PM sophi <sophi@libreoffice.org> wrote:

Hi,

Le 30/12/2021 à 14:39, James Harking a écrit :
Hi all,

Here's hypothetical for you, I don't have direct contact with our
desktop
team but I do have some sway in decision making.

Let's say we are a company with around 1000 Windows desktops, we
currently
use Microsoft Office 365 and generally are happy with it, however
license
costs are relatively expensive and we have a concern over our data
portability and so we are looking at alternatives. We would not migrate
away from Windows as this would cause excessive work for little
benefit.

We use Outlook for mail, calendaring and contacts which are essential
for
us, we could for the most part substitute Word for Writer, Excel for
Calc
and Impress for Powerpoint. However we also use Teams internally for
communication, meetings and document storage. Also One Note is used for
quick individual note keeping. Microsoft Project is used by a small
subset
of colleagues.

You have dedicated open source tools for that, this is not LibreOffice
job to do video conference or mail. See one of them for example

https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bluemind.net%2Fen%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C4e38d3cfa0b846033be908d9cba1e30d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637764718476922396%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=Lj%2F98WuBdG1zwwbLDBdBSCv7smzi%2FXoxzWb%2BCX2Kh4A%3D&amp;reserved=0

Cheers
Sophie

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