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Heinrich,
I am sorry. I misunderstood your intent. Yes, it does seem like a bug and should be addressed. I cannot shed any light on this specific subject, since I am not using any 4.x LO version. I am keeping with the stable 3.6+ series until 4.1.4+ is released. Then I may try it, depending on the complaints I see on this forum. That is just my computer policy.

As for desktop integration (DI) being kde-specific, I don't think that is the case. Yes, there were, and still are in the 3.6 series, several versions of desktop integration for the different desktop environments (DEs). However, I just checked my 3.6.6.2 version and there are now only three: freedesktop, mandriva, and suse. There is no kde or gnome-specific version and the freedesktop DI seems to be the coming standard http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ , with mandriva and suse the final holdouts in the 3.6.6.2 case. So, I suspect if you select freedesktop for your gnome DE, it should work for you. It works for my KDE DE. In fact, gnome and kde are now so similar in API (Application Programming Interface) that they will run each others' apps (kde and gtk) and share the desktop directories/links, if not the menus. You may have also read the reply to this thread that the LO 4.1 series no longer has separate DI rpm package files, but has the DI integrated into the main package. I suspect that integration is the freedesktop DI, but that is just a guess.

The bottom line is that this problem you are experiencing - not being able to run the main LO program or any of the sub-apps - does seem like a bug to me. Not being able to select a particular DI, may not be a bug, but just evolution.

Hope this helps.
Girvin Herr


sun shine wrote:
Girvin

This is a topic I have some interest in and have been following.

While I am aware of the capacity to run the soffice script from the terminal and even creating a custom launcher for the Gnome, XFCE4 and in Mint, Mate panels, what I am curious about is exactly why doing so is even necessary in the first place?

This will have been the first time in my experience of using OOo and now LibO that doing this manually is necessary, and it makes me wonder what value the desktop-integration package has if the user still needs to do this customised approach to get the application to work.

Are you able to shine any light on the matter? Is this an oversight from the 4.1. beta developers, a bug, or - a feature? Similarly, any ideas about why this desktop integration (which doesn't) is only geared for the KDE and not for Gnome (and Gnome-like) DEs?

Thanks for any insights you can share.





On 21/07/13 20:47, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
Heinrich,
Have you tried bringing LibreOffice up with "soffice" in a terminal shell, or unambiguously, "/opt/libreoffice4.1/program/soffice" (less quotes, of course)? If that works, then you could manually add a link in your menu or at least an icon on your desktop. soffice is the main libreoffice program or, more accurately, script, that invokes the other programs (Writer, Calc, etc.). If that program is not run first, then the others may not be initialized properly to run.

You could also run writer, calc, etc. from a terminal and see what messages are output from it. They may give you a clue as to why it isn't running properly. But my bet is on soffice.

FYI: "soffice" is a legacy name from the StarOffice days. Maybe some day the devs will get around to changing that - unless it would break something.

Hope this helps.
Girvin Herr

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