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On Apr 5, 2011, at 14:56 , Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

Laszlo,

It is not up to TDF to do something, but we have to act, each of us,
individually and collectively to make sure we get results .


Pardon me, Charles, but if TDF don't, who will?  Who should be questioning the policy of the EC in 
not taking in alternatives or even considering the viability of alternatives?  Who is going to 
challenge the legality of these decisions?

Even if 10%, 50% or even 100% of the people subscribed to this list all emailed their euro-MP, how 
much effect would that have?  But if two or three of the steering committee were to approach the 
authorities, including whatever organ within the EU it is that oversees fair play and the following 
of EU policies, then we individuals could send details of that approach to our local newspapers and 
television companies with some hope of being taken seriously.

In the US there is apparently a marketing list.  Isn't there one in the EU or one - or more - 
member countries?

//James


Le Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:22:24 +0200 (CEST),
Kürti László <kurti.laszlo@openskm.com> a écrit :

Charles,

I was asking the European members personally! to take something
against it. We here in Hungary spent the last 5 years with lobbying
for only to let the FLOSS into the public sector. Earlier it was not
possible. We had some positive results 'cause we could refer the EU
policies. But if the EC don't give ...t what can I say? I tell you,
nothing! And really all the national governments will be more than
happy to find an excuse not to do anything for interoperability, for
standardization and for freedom.


If we?, you? (TDF) have the will and members stand behind this case
than we have a chance.

Yes we must act an intelligent way but first of all we must act.

Laszlo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles-H. Schulz" <charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org>
To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2011 11:16:58 AM
Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] European Commitee enter talks with MS
licences,    Please make your action today against it.

Hello Laszlo,


Le Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:42:10 +0200 (CEST),
Kürti László <kurti.laszlo@openskm.com> a écrit :

Hi All,

Sorry for this off topic but this is serious
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/print/9215419/EC_enters_talks_with_Microsoft_for_new_licenses?taxonomyName=IT+in+Government&taxonomyId=13

If this come true than we (LibreOffice an other FLOSS products) will
be down and out, buried by dust for ever, governments do not need
better excuse than this.

Please make your action today:
blog about, send a mail to your member of EP, tell the local media


I would not be as pessimistic as you are, the EC is unfortunately a
MS shop, but there is certainly ground to protest; I'd suggest you use
other, more focused initiatives than this list to take action:
http://interopwikiproject.com/public-procurement:ec-pushes-ahead-with-windows-7-migration

Best,
Charles.


Thx
Laszlo

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