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Hi Girvin,
The same as you I have used MySQL/MariaDB with OO/LO for at least a decade. Before that I looked after DB2 (Mainframe...) as an IBM-Systems Engineer. I also cave been using the JDBC-connector happily. One of the problems I encountered with the "native" connector was the absence of a capability to reconnect to my remote server after an activity timeout
occurred (the server would allow me to increase the timeout specified).
In any case - I feel that a connection to an external database server should continue to be available. One reason - databases in enterprises tend to be used by more than just ONE
application system...
Just my two cents worth...
Regards from Salzburg
H. Stoellinger

On 2018-05-26 21:15, Girvin Herr wrote:


On 05/26/2018 02:59 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Snip
Base is supposed to MUCH better when using an external back-end - it's what
Base was originally designed for and it's where Base beats Access.
Annoyingly that seems to be a little known fact that doesn't get picked up
on by people marketing LO.  Oddly hsqldb as an external back-end (ie
installing the most recent version into the OS and getting it from the
hsqldb project themselves, instead of using the old twisted version
hard-coded into LO) tends to be quite fantastic - but it is totally
dependent on Java and Java is a nightmare. So the move away from the
twisted old version of hsqldb to firebird is great news.
Snip

Hi Tom,
History lesson as I remember it: I suppose OO/AOO/LO wanted a built-in database engine to better compete with Access, which had the Jet engine built-in. Choosing hsqldb must have had its reasons back then. Going back before OO, StarOffice had its own built-in database engine, Adabase D, but I never could get it to work. (Granted, I was a database newbie back then and my problems may not have been StarOffice's fault.) I was glad to get OO (back then) working with MySQL about 2005. BTW: I think there was a crude and circuitous way to get Access 1.1 to talk to an external database server via a "connector" system. But I never tried to do it before I converted my databases to MySQL and never looked back.

My experience: I have always used LO with MySQL as my backend (aka server) with the Java connector between them. Actually, I am now using Mariadb, as this is what Slackware Linux distributes now. I have not had any problems with my database system, after the initial configuration learning curve. It works. Therefore, hsqldb and now the proposed switch to the firebird backend are a non-issue for me, as long as LO will continue to support the external server paradigm. But that is me. Others may require the built-in engine paradigm.

For years, LO, has been reporting an imminent built-in (aka "native") support for MySQL so that the Java connector is no longer needed. However, that functionality seems to be another myth.

Girvin Herr




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