Le Mon, 2 Dec 2013 09:21:08 +0000,
Tom Davies <tomcecf@gmail.com> a écrit :
Hi :)
It feels like a lot of the sponsors and supporters of TDF (or anything
else for that matter) do a lot of work at such a high level or so far
outside of the immediate organisation that very few people inside the
organisation really realise they are involved at all.
Well... I think the awareness is there. We talk to the FSF, we are at
the OASIS, we are part of OSI, etc.
On these LibreOffice mailing lists we see people with FSF email
addresses actively helping along the same lines as everyone else here.
Who? - seriously, I'd be interested to know if the FSF is here
helping users or otherwise contributing: it's rather far-fetched from
their work.
On a side-issue, it often makes sense for the people who make a thing
to be the promoters of it. Since ODF Alliance seems pretty much dead
now then maybe OASIS could take on that functionality? OASIS are
already an established neutral 3rd party and even though MS are a
member they are only 1 member amongst 5,000. On the other hand i am
really beginning to like the idea of just carrying on doing a bit of
ODF promotion from within the various companies that use it.
Yes indeed. The OASIS only produces/develops ODF. There was an ODF
adoption TC that attempted to coordinate promotion activities on ODF
but it folded one year ago or less, and that's not coming back I'm
afraid.
Best,
Charles.
Regards from
Tom :)
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From: Charles-H. Schulz <charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org>
Date: 2 December 2013 09:04
Subject: Re: Formats & failed marketing, was: Fwd: Cost of MS Office
relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new
version of MS Office
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Le Sun, 1 Dec 2013 19:09:57 +0000,
Tom Davies <tomcecf@gmail.com> a écrit :
Hi :)
I think the largest company in the eco-system is beginning to be
TDF! IBM is larger but it doesn't seem to want to be a big name in
office desktops.
Does the ODF Alliance still exist? Their website seems to be dead
or perhaps just very out-of-date. Perhaps people from TDF could get
involved in updating it?
We don't control anything on the ODF Alliance website, which was never
an actual entity and today it's been left inactive for several years
already.
Perhaps Apache might be interested in giving
it a boost too? Perhaps it's just that it's main reasons for
existence are over now?
That is what some would call an insightful remark :-)
OASIS is a LOT more lively. Last i heard
there were some (or at least 1) people from TDF involved in that.
oh there are more, but keep in mind the OASIS is where ODF is "made",
not from where it gets promoted. The OASIS is a standards consortium,
not an advocacy group.
Also there seems to be TDF people involved in FSF (or is it FSF
people involved in TDF?). Anyway, either way is good.
I think it's the opposite, FSF is a sponsor of TDF.
Best,
Charles.
Regards from
Tom :)
On 1 December 2013 16:40, Italo Vignoli <italo.vignoli@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 01/12/13 14:14, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Today, things are very different:
- the ODF ecosystem is not so unified (and to explain why
probably needs a whitepaper)
Unfortunately, the largest company in the ecosystem is now focused
on other objectives, and has been instrumental in splitting the
ecosystem (and keeping it divided, in a way which makes it
probably impossible to reunite).
- Microsoft implements ODF... in a serious and very efficient
way.
We should be more effective in leveraging MS ODF support, though.
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